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Date:      Sat, 29 Jan 2000 14:53:20 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        James Howard <howardjp@wam.umd.edu>, Jim Mock <jim@luna.cdrom.com>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: We need more books!
Message-ID:  <20000129145320.K17521@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0001281652320.367-100000@rac3.wam.umd.edu>
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On Friday, 28 January 2000 at 17:01:32 -0500, James Howard wrote:
> So I have been waiting for six months to be informed if Amazon can find
> any used copies of the 4.4BSD books from O'Reilly.  Now, this seems to
> suggest to me that there is both a serious demand and a serious shortage
> of this content.  However, I do have two volumns and a lot of the rest is
> on the web.  It shows that this material is also out of date.  How about
> updating all this for FreeBSD 4 (or 5 if this is a bigger project than I
> expect).  Would Walnut Creek be willing to publish the series
> again? 

Not last time I talked to them.  The demand is too low, though if you
could drum up orders for, say, 100 or so, I'm sure they could be
persuaded.  O'Reilly was underwhelmed by the demand for the books.

> Might Bell Labs permit thier proprietary documents to be republished
> as needed?  I do have rights to redistribute the dc document, so
> that shows some willingness.  Would anyone else be interested in
> this?

I've spoken to Dion Johnson at SCO, and he thinks that something like
that might be possible.  I suppose I should bug him again.  Don't you
bug him right now; we don't want to spam him.

> Have I asked this before?

Not that I noticed.

> Have I just volunteered? :)

Yes.

> On another vein, O'Reilly has contuned to disappoint me by not
> publishing a "FreeBSD in a Nutshell."  Would Walnut Creek take on
> such a project?  I realize the name cannot be used but the spirit of
> the book and its functionality is what needs to be copied :)

I have here on my desk a contract from O'Reilly for a book called
"FreeBSD Administration and Networking".  That's due for publication
in about 12 months' time.  I don't think they'll do much else in the
meantime, but you could try.  I'm copying my editor at O'Reilly (Bcc:
because I'm not sure he wants his name known; Editor, you know who you
are.  Feel free to reply to the thread if you want).

> On a semi-related note, I once heard about a future magazine called
> "BSD Journal" or something in the works.  What ever became of that?

It never got off the ground.

On Friday, 28 January 2000 at 15:40:06 -0800, Jim Mock wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 at 17:01:32 -0500, James Howard wrote:
> [snip..]
>
>> On another vein, O'Reilly has contuned to disappoint me by not
>> publishing a "FreeBSD in a Nutshell."
>
> I just wanted to make a quick note on this.  As far as I know, and the
> last I heard anything about it, O'Reilly was/is interested in doing a
> FreeBSD in a Nutshell book, but the reason it hasn't been published is
> because no one has written it :-)

Do you have names?

> There are also a few other (4 or 5 IIRC) FreeBSD books being worked on
> by various people.
>
>> Would Walnut Creek take on such a project?
>
> I can't give a yes or no answer here, but we would still need someone to
> write the book whether it was us (WC) or O'Reilly doing it.

I think it would be easier to take, say, O'Reilly's "UNIX in a
nutshell" and convert it to FreeBSD.  That would mean that O'Reilly
publishes it, of course.  Do we have any volunteers to do the work?

Greg
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