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Date:      Wed, 21 May 2003 19:27:18 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@tcoip.com.br>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/release/alpha dokern.sh drivers.conf
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On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 08:28:05AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> >
> >>Alas, the floppy disk loader doesn't come with ficl at all. :-)
> >
> >Daniel, would you please stop spreading this non-true fact now?
>=20
> [checking facts]
>=20
> Ooops, I did a Terry. :-)
>=20
> Well, it used to be true.
>=20
Hm, can you please tell me when it was the case, and how this
was done?  I can't find it anywhere in the CVS history of
src/release/.

> And I can't say I'm happy to discover I'm=20
> wrong, since my plans call for an increase of 40Kb on i386 for the=20
> loader on i386 (rather more on 64 bits archs). I counted on not being=20
> encumbered by floppy's loader.
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FWIW, recompiling loader without FICL, saved me 100K on the kern.flp
for Alpha!  The patch that does this isn't ready for committing yet,
but I will make sure to polish it to the required shape.

> >The boot floppies DO come with FICL support in loader(8), and it
> >is how we load the kernel hints file during the initial boot.
>=20
> It is not. Here is loader.rc:
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> include /boot/device.hints
> load /kernel
> echo \007\007
> echo Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:
> read
> load -t mfs_root /mfsroot
> set hint.acpi.0.disabled=3D1
> set driver_floppy=3DYES
> set module_path=3D"/modules;/dist"
> echo \007\007
> autoboot 10
>=20
> The commands are "include", "load", "echo", "read", "set" and=20
> "autoboot". They are all builtin commands, not ficl ones. The hints file=
=20
> itself contains only the "set" command, which is a builtin command.
>=20
I stand corrected.

> So, regardless of whether FICL is present or not, it is, at the present,=
=20
> not required.
>=20
Indeed.


Cheers,
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