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Date:      Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:10:26 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Spidey <beaupran@jsp.umontreal.ca>
To:        Ollivier Robert <roberto@keltia.freenix.fr>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Examining FBSD set[ug]ids and their use
Message-ID:  <14367.64514.294218.824898@anarcat.dyndns.org>
References:  <14364.64172.638014.558487@anarcat.dyndns.org> <99Nov1.143118est.40332@border.alcanet.com.au> <14365.48408.87230.710344@anarcat.dyndns.org> <19991101203858.A39857@keltia.freenix.fr>

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Ok... In fact, this UUCP thing has been discussed over and over again
on the various FBSD-* lists, and I don't want to get back on this, as
I think compatibility wins over the security in that perticular case. 

Anyways, since UUCP runs in its sandbox, I guess it's ok...

Thanks for all your comments, everybody.

I'll start checking the ports tree soon for setuids... :))

Wish me luck!

AnarCat.

--- Big Brother told Ollivier Robert to write, at 20:38 of November 1:
> According to Spidey:
> > Ok. But what is its use??? Is it used by X? Why is it suid?
> 
> Xwrapper is setuid so that the X server itself doesn't have to be.
> 
> > Ok. but what _is it_? Why does it needs special permissions?
> 
> UUCP = Unix-to-Unix CoPy. It is an old but still used way of sending files and
> execute command across serial lines (and TCP as well). It predates TCP/IP and
> is used mostly now by European and people who pay by the minutes (or bytes)
> their phone lines.
> 
> It is the most efficient way of transfering news batches I know on serial
> lines. We have a good network of UUCP connected machines here in France and I
> manage a small USP (Usenet Service Provider :-)) along with friends. We have
> around 40 people that would kill anyone wanting to remove UUCP support :-)
> 
> We even have people with PPP or cable connections that are still using UUCP
> (over TCP) in order to get their mail/news. You don't need hacks like POP
> before SMTP or multiple mailbox support in POP/IMAP with UUCP. Routing entire
> domains is natural and multiple account is native usage.
> -- 
> Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr
> FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #74: Thu Sep  9 00:20:51 CEST 1999
> 
> 
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