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Date:      Thu, 5 Mar 2015 18:17:32 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Benjamin Kaduk <bjkfbsd@gmail.com>
Cc:        "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r279603 - in head: bin/rcp usr.bin/rlogin usr.bin/rsh
Message-ID:  <20150305151732.GA48476@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <CAJ5_RoBk=5C2%2BMktu_ODc7C%2BNraUhiSprtKd-=3bj%2Bb5UPT_1g@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 10:11:43AM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:20:59PM +0000, David Chisnall wrote:
> >
> > > Does telnet come with a massive selection of options for insecure login
> > / authentication?  Yes.
> >
> > This is may right to use or not to use secure or not secure login /
> > authentication.
> > Also, I am use telnet login for check kerberos authentication (ssh
> > kerberos authentication (SSO) broken 10 years ago. nobody care).
> >
> 
> Other people are covering the rest of the issues, so I will cover just this
> one point.
> 
> telnet with kerberos authentication was broken 15 years ago, by the EFF's
> Deep Crack and its successors.  Kerberized telnet supports only DES, which
> has not been secure for a long time.  The last I heard, $50 would buy you a
> DES key brute-force with a day turnaround.
> 
> Speaking as an upstream maintainer: don't use kerberized telnet.

I am use this for test kerberos setup (check all setup correctly).

> I use kerberized ssh all the time; please tell me more about how it is
> broken (a new thread would be best).

kerberized ssh broken in SSO mode: you can't do ssh login to
kerberized host (from outside world), input kerberos password and use
kerberos ticket.
This is issuse between PAM and ssh thread emulation.


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