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Date:      Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Kurt Wuensche <kwuensche@yahoo.com>
To:        cjclark@alum.mit.edu
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Route strangeness
Message-ID:  <20000825154402.375.qmail@web4701.mail.yahoo.com>

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>> I can even ping the gateway on my isp, but
>> the packets go no further.
> 
> What do you mean? If you ping it, the packets
> shouldn't go further. Do
> you mean that you have trouble trying to ping
> machines past it? What
> does a 'traceroute -n' return for those?

Yes, I can't ping past the gateway.  But
pings/traceroutes outside my network can get to my
gateway box at the ISP.  Its like the ISP box is not
bridging/forwarding, except for being able to get
through to telnet with the delay.  I'll get a
traceroute -n once it happens again-but if memory
serves, it just timed out.

> > Thinking it was an isp problem
> > I called the isp.  Their routing is apparently ok.
> > Still pings from them sometimes
> > don't come back.  When this happens my host is
> also
> > not visible
> > from the internet, with a ping to an ip address
> > returning
> > request timeout errors.
> 
> The exact messages please.

I ran the ping from a winblows 95 box so all I got was
"request timed out."

> 
> > Even weirder is that a telnet
> > by ip number
> > to the machine remotely eventually shows a login
> > prompt, but only
> > after waiting for almost two minutes!  I have run
> > route
> > monitor and tcpdump and examined messages.  So far
> > tcpdump has not shown any clues while route
> monitor
> > occassionally shows RTM_LOSING messages from pid 0
> and
> > the user ppp process.  messages shows nothing. 
> Then
> > for no reason, routing will work again.  A reset
> also
> > seems to fix the problem.  I have a friend running
> > 2.2.8 and the same identical things are happening
> to
> > him.  Any ideas?
> 
> DNS problems?

I think this must go beyond DNS.  I am using ip
numbers not domain names for the
traceroute/ping/telnets.  This  has got to be ip
routing.

I'll start detailed logging so we can correlate times
with events to hopefully get a cause/effect sequence.

Thanks again, Kurt


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