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Date:      Sat, 3 Feb 2024 13:44:53 +0000 (UTC)
From:      "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bz@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>
Cc:        =?UTF-8?Q?Mina_Gali=C4=87?= <freebsd@igalic.co>,  Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org,  dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: ce348fe5cfc3 - main - amd64 & i386: enable VIMAGE in MINIMAL
Message-ID:  <70o6oo0s-r8nn-7r92-5s6r-6so586rpo1o1@SerrOFQ.bet>
In-Reply-To: <Zb3OC2IxxL8dlTUV@cell.glebi.us>
References:  <202402030136.4131aQIM010980@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <Zb3OC2IxxL8dlTUV@cell.glebi.us>

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On Fri, 2 Feb 2024, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:

>  Mina,
>
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2024 at 01:36:26AM +0000, Warner Losh wrote:
> W> commit ce348fe5cfc36c454db860f0e5cd26f094deb09c
> W> Author:     Mina Galić <freebsd@igalic.co>
> W> AuthorDate: 2024-02-03 00:35:18 +0000
> W> Commit:     Warner Losh <imp@FreeBSD.org>
> W> CommitDate: 2024-02-03 01:35:00 +0000
> W>
> W>     amd64 & i386: enable VIMAGE in MINIMAL
> W>
> W>     VNET(9) is very useful, and is not loadable.
> W>     Enable it in MINIMAL.
> W>
> W>     Reviewed by: imp
> W>     Pull Request: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/pull/962
>
> To be fair, it totally disagree with this change.

For different reasons I second that.
VIMAGE definitively does not belong in MINMAL for comfort.


I think a solution is something which was in the re@ inbox for a long
time and someone said he'd do but it simply never happened.

About a decade+ ago we did want to publish more than one kernel on a
release to avoid all these problems.
I assume with pkgbase it would be super-easy by now (ignoring build
time and someone patching the installer).

I'd love to have a VIMAGE kernel (GENERIC+VNET) and I'd love to have a
NOIP4 (GENERIC without INET);  these were the initial reasons for the
above request.

Would people thinkg this would be a better solution (at least for the
X86 world) -- still ahving to deal with arm64 and others then.

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Bjoern A. Zeeb                                                     r15:7
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