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Date:      Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:09:30 -0500 (EST)
From:      John Bleichert <syborg@stny.rr.com>
To:        Jud <judmarc@fastmail.fm>
Cc:        matrix@altima.net, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: lightweight wm
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302210906510.21787-100000@janeway.vonbek.dhs.org>
In-Reply-To: <oprkxa4ld60cf2rk@fastmail.fm>

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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Jud wrote:
> Subject: Re: lightweight wm
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:38:28 -0500 (EST), John Bleichert 
> <syborg@stny.rr.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 matrix@altima.net wrote:
> >> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> >>
> >> im on a pI 233mhz mmx with 64mb of ram
> >> what do u recommend me to install GNOME or KDE
> >>
> >
> > I use Blackbox on a 166 and it runs great (Fluxbox as suggested by 
> > somebody else is based on Blackbox I believe) - it's a great window 
> > manager. Controlled by a simple text file, multiple desktops, nice 
> > graphical styles, etc. mwm is nice too (very unix) but openmotif takes a 
> > long time to build.
> 
> Though I have the hardware and disk space to run GNOME, KDE, or both if I 
> wish, I gravitate to a lightweight ethic, so like John, I run Blackbox (as 
> well as bbrun for extra convenience).  Very occasionally I also use 
> Windowmaker for a bit of variety.
> 
> With a fairly lightweight GUI file manager, Rox-filer (not lightweight if 
> built from ports, because the FreeBSD port has a bunch of GNOME 
> dependencies; I just download it from its home page and install it, and it 
> works fine for me - note, I do have Linux emulation installed), browser 
> (Opera), mailer (Sylpheed), editor (nedit, though I also play with Xemacs 
> and a couple of TeX editors), cd player (ascd or wmcdplay) and system 
> monitor (GKrellM2), I feel pretty well set.
> 
> These are all GUI applications, because you asked about GNOME and KDE, 
> which are big GUI desktop environments.  The FreeBSD base system comes with 
> command line utilities which will take the places of several of these 
> applications quite nicely.
> 
> Jud
> 

Actually, just to be clear, I'm a KDE fan. KDE 3.1 is great, and on a 
multi-GHz box with 6 cubic yards of RAM who cares about resources? But on 
some of the lower-watt boxes I have (at work and at home) I need a 
lighterweight WM. Blackbox is great, very clean. Also, the code is very 
clean and makes an excellent X/WM tutorial.

That said, I do run Blackbox for a while every now and again for a break 
;)

#  John Bleichert 
#  http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg


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