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Date:      Mon, 15 Jan 2024 11:58:58 -0500
From:      "Dan Langille" <dan@langille.org>
To:        "Mark Millard" <marklmi@yahoo.com>, "Philip Paeps" <philip@freebsd.org>, "clusteradm@freebsd.org" <clusteradm@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "FreeBSD Hackers" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: list of valid ABI combinations
Message-ID:  <43875796-b619-47c4-874f-39090416b2ff@app.fastmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <41A815DF-8F94-4B00-AEDF-D5E7456A0914@yahoo.com>
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On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, at 3:00 AM, Mark Millard wrote:
> On Jan 1, 2024, at 21:45, Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-01-02 12:38:47 (+0800), Mark Millard wrote:
>>> [FYI: My internet access is limited to a cellphone for some number o=
f days.]
>
> I'm back to having my normal internet access.
>
>>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 19:26, Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> =EF=BB=BFOn 2023-12-07 23:03:33 (+0800), Mark Millard wrote:
>>>>> . . .
>>>>>=20
>>>>> There might be issues at times with https://pkg.freebsd.org/index.=
html not
>>>>> being in sync. As far as I can tell, that page is manually maintai=
ned.
>>>>=20
>>>> clusteradm updates that page to match what we're actually distribut=
ing.  If it doesn't reflect reality, that's a bug, and we'd like to know=
 please. :-)
>>>=20
>>> Does that include the =E2=80=9Conly ??? Is updated=E2=80=9D sorts of=
 notes?
>>=20
>> Yes.  Please let clusteradm know if the notes don't appear to reflect=
 reality.
>>=20
>> clusteradm maintains the pkgsync infrastructure, which includes the i=
ndex page on the mirrors.  pkgmgr is responsible for scheduling the buil=
ds.  (And ports committers are responsible for making sure packages are =
even buildable).
>>=20
>>> For example, FreeBSD:13:armv6 Latest dates back to 2021-Jan-25 but t=
here is no note about quarterly only. Various FreeBSD:15:* do not have n=
otes about Latest only, despite having no quarterly at all. Some other c=
ases have notable but shorter differences in the Latest vs. Quarterly ti=
me frames, suggesting only one is being updated but no fixed difference =
is definitive for that status.
>>=20
>> The pkgsync infrastructure doesn't really care how often packages are=
 updated.  If memory serves, we first added a "quarterly only" note when=
 the thunderxX generation of aarch64 builders broke with distressing reg=
ularity.  The ampereX builders are much more reliable.
>>=20
>> I think the current situation for armv6 is "updated irregularly".  Po=
werPC is in the same boat as aarch64 in the ThunderX era: when the hardw=
are works, packages are updated.
>>=20
>> . . .
>> Philip
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Philip Paeps
>> Senior Reality Engineer
>> Alternative Enterprises
>
> Using https://dev.freshports.org/ports-mgmt/pkg looking for
> versions involved that are prior to 1.20.* at this point
> (or being "-") but having also a 1.20.* involved (or both
> being "-"), hovering in order to see dates when available
>  . .
>
>
> Not-reported / misreported on https://pkg.freebsd.org/ :
>
> FreeBSD:13:armv6 latest 1.16.2 (2021-01-25) vs. quarterly 1.19.2 (2023=
-09-05)
> So only quarterly is updated (and not regularly?).
>
> FreeBSD:14:armv6 latest 1.19.0 (2023-01-15) vs. quarterly -
> So only latest is/was updated (and not regularly).
>
> FreeBSD:14:powerpc64 latest - vs. quarterly -
> So neither latest nor quarterly is updated.
>
> FreeBSD:15:aarch64 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly -
> So only latest is updated.
>
> FreeBSD:15:amd64 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly -
> So only latest is updated.
>
> FreeBSD:15:armv7 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly -
> So only latest is updated.
>
> FreeBSD:15:powerpc latest - vs. quarterly -
> So neither latest nor quarterly is updated.
>
> FreeBSD:15:powerpc64 latest - vs. quarterly -
> So neither latest nor quarterly is updated.
>
> FreeBSD:15:powerpc64le latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly -
> So only latest is updated.


Mark: My reading of your email saying the above items are something for =
clusteradm to consider? As opposed to FreshPorts needs to do something.
--=20
  Dan Langille
  dan@langille.org



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