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Date:      Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:52:57 -0400
From:      Sean Michael Whipkey <highway@cstone.net>
To:        David Johnson <djohnson@acuson.com>
Cc:        Chad Day <cday@beachassociates.com>, "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: System intrusion
Message-ID:  <3936BF19.7A143751@cstone.net>
References:  <A8D9B16D2196D2118B6E00A0C9E307F423857A@beachpdc1.beachassociates.com> <3936BD46.728AD646@acuson.com>

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David Johnson wrote:
> >From what I understand, the FBI will confiscate the host machine as
> evidence. Very stupid, sort of like evicting you from your home after a
> break in. You next best bet is to contact AOL and present them with
> evidence that their user committed malfeasance.

They didn't do that to us when my ISP got hacked.  However, they're very
over-worked, and they are very short on good technical people.  Unless
you had a big loss, they'll forget to do anything...
 
> If that doesn't work, then you have two options in my radical and
> rebellious opinion. If AOL does nothing, then block all AOL from your
> site, redirecting any requests to a page explaining why they're blocked
> and who the SOB responsible is. The second option, considering that when

AOL will do something if you talk to them correctly.  Just keep fighting
through the bureaucracy.  Unless you're rather large, AOL probably won't
even notice or care if you block them.

> law enforcement breaks down, the law-abiding go vigilante, is to send a
> better hacker after this guy. Or mail bomb him. Be creative. All sorts
> of really sweet vengeance comes to mind that I dare not post in a public
> forum...

I'd have to recommend that as a very bad thing to do.  Don't drop to the
l33t hacker level.  You're just asking for more retribution, and if you
do need to report it, your credibility is shot, especially if the kid
reports it to AOL (or they notice it in their logs).

SeanMike

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