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Date:      Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:49:52 -0500
From:      Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: VMware pulling Intel specter patches
Message-ID:  <20180116174952.n7asjhyw66fnkicu@mutt-hbsd>
In-Reply-To: <20180116171745.0BD75181E@spqr.komquats.com>
References:  <20180116171745.0BD75181E@spqr.komquats.com>

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On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 09:18:47AM -0800, Cy Schubert wrote:
> Might we be jumping the gun with updated firmware in devcpu-data?
>=20
> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/7qjnfx/vmware_pulled_spectre_p=
atches_on_friday/

=46rom what I understand, the new Intel microcode only makes sense if
retpoline is used. On Skylake and above, retpoline by itself isn't
100% effective against Spectre. On those systems, retpoline requires
the new Intel microcode update along with enabling the new IBRS
feature that comes with it.

Simply updating the microcode on Intel systems doesn't really do much
on its own.

Granted, I could have misread and be completely wrong. Please let me
know if I am.

Thanks,

--=20
Shawn Webb
Cofounder and Security Engineer
HardenedBSD

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