Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 06:53:58 +0100 (CET) From: List User <listuser@netspace.net.au> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <199812140553.GAA06820@doorway.home.lan>
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Newsgroups: freebsd.current Path: root From: "John W. DeBoskey" <jwd@unx.sas.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA13630 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:13:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jwd) To: freebsd-current Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Private News Host Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <199812132313.SAA13630@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Delivered-To: vmailer-current@freebsd.org X-Uidl: 9a32f5ee0df05d0c5a7bc68ed44354b0 X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:13:37 GMT From: Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile Eivind said: > On Sun, Dec 13, 1998 at 02:44:23PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > Better, but not sufficient; it assumes that the user checks 'ls > > > /etc/*sample' after make world. For such a feature to have any effect, > > > you have to somehow warn the user about missing files, e.g. by mailing > > > a list to root. > > > > I can see annoyed users turning this off and _still_ complaining. Current > > is turning into too much of a commodity with not enough emphasis of "thou > > shalt RTFM and RTSL". > > I've been thinking of how to say this with a suitable amount of force. > One way of doing this could be to stop cvsup access for -current. > > Yup - if you want to track -current, you track the cvs repository. If > you don't need the cvs repository, you're not developing code, and > thus shouldn't be in -current. > > I'm not sure if this is too drastic, but we really should be shooting > off those people... > > Eivind. Well, a dose of reality. Every one of you used to be in the position of some of these "people". You didn't know everything. And sometimes, RTFM just doesn't do the trick, especially when TFM is out-of-date because you the "developers" changed the code, but not the doc's. Now, with that said... My stupid question: How does one track -current without cvsup? I can't access the repository via nfs, and I don't have an account for either pserver or rsh mode... Now some praise for the the committers who have been working through the bug database. Thanks! And my pet peaves :-) 'make release' still seems to be installing a kerberos system. telnetd has a bug somewhere in it's handling of the default banner: / (cvs.unx.sas.com) (ttyp1) which should read: FreeBSD/i386 (cvs.unx.sas.com) (ttyp1) This is ONLY exhibitted under the krb version of telnetd, the the default version. Comments, Critiques, and helpful hints are ALWAYS welcome! Thanks! John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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