Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:36:27 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> To: obrien@FreeBSD.org Cc: cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/emulators/linux_base-fc4 Makefile Message-ID: <20071222133627.46o3d8fxc0sko0w0@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20071220163402.GB46470@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200712192019.lBJKJtvv016644@repoman.freebsd.org> <20071220092355.rpm2kstwu88c4k88@webmail.leidinger.net> <20071220163402.GB46470@dragon.NUXI.org>
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Quoting David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.org> (from Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:34:02 -0800): > On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 09:23:55AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >>> Also set LATEST_LINK so 'pkg_add -r linux_base' works. >> >> I'm indifferent between "good idea" and "I don't care": Why do you want >> to do such a pkg_add? Shouldn't "pkg_add -r <app>" do the right thing >> (add the right linux_base or tell what the right linux_base is)? > > This change does make it so one can add the right linux_base. Without > it, one must go churning thru /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk to figure out > what specific distro is the right app. This is only true if you want to add it by hand, instead of letting the pkg tools tell you which one to download. What I would like to know is, if you are adding it by hand and then using a linux program which is not available as a port, or if you install a linux program from ports/pkg by installing all the prerequisite by hand. I'm asking this, because normally it doesn't make sense to install linux programs as packages. The ports download binary files anyway, and there's no compiling or some other time consuming operation happening. The time spent to install a port is more or less the same a the time spend installing a pacakge. I know that some systems don't have /usr/ports, and I see the benefit of packages there, but I want to understand the problem behind this commit. For programs in our ports collection, you should get told which is the right linux base to install (if missing prerequisites are not installed recursively). The remaining case I'm aware of is when you want to use a program which is not available from ports, the best thing to do would be to do a (local) port of this program. In most of the cases installing a linux base by hand is the wrong thing to do. And as such I want to know the reasons behind this commit, maybe we need to add some docs to the linux part of the handbook. Bye, Alexander. -- %DCL-E-MEMBAD, bad memory -SYSTEM-F-VMSPDGERS, pudding between the ears http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137
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