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Date:      Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:06:05 -0500
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        marino@freebsd.org
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, Antoine Brodin <antoine@freebsd.org>, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r347539 - in head: biology/genpak biology/rasmol cad/chipmunk databases/typhoon databases/xmbase-grok devel/asl devel/flick devel/happydoc devel/ixlib devel/p5-Penguin-Easy editors/axe ...
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On 2014-03-27 11:54, John Marino wrote:
> On 3/27/2014 17:48, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>> On 2014-03-27 11:44, John Marino wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2014 17:39, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree completely with you. I don't understand why we remove ports 
>>>> that
>>>> are working perfectly fine, except where broken or no upstream and 
>>>> there
>>>> are security concerns. As a user I hate this. I still want older gcc 
>>>> and
>>>> tcl. Portage has *32* versions of GCC while we have 4. For me, 
>>>> picking a
>>>> development platform is all about which packages are available to 
>>>> test
>>>> the portability of my code.
>>> 
>>> To be pedantic, you are neglecting my work:
>>>   lang/gnat-aux (expiring)
>>>   lang/gcc47-aux
>>>   lang/gcc49-aux
>>>   lang/gnatdroid-armv5
>>>   lang/gnatdroid-armv7
>>> 
>>> so that's 5 more right off the bat.  And they differ from the vanilla
>>> lang/gccXX, otherwise they could be combined.
>>> 
>> 
>> I don't care or know what those are. I only care about the main GCC
>> ports in my count. I also did not include the ADA gcc compiler in my
>> portage count.
> 
> Well, then you are being ingenuous.  Three of those ports compile C,
> C++, Fortran and ObjC in addition to Ada.  In many use cases, they are
> more powerful than the "main" compilers of the same version.  They
> different count as a legitimate versions of gcc.  The latter are cross
> compilers to android, so yes, non-ada users should be interested -- I
> would count them.
> 
> John

You are not adding to this discussion. I take offense to you accusing me 
of being disingenuous as well.

* dev-lang/gnat-gcc
      Available versions:
         (3.4)   3.4.6
         (4.1)   4.1.2
         (4.2)   4.2.3
         (4.3)   *4.3.2 ~*4.3.3 4.3.5 ~4.3.6
         (4.4)   ~4.4.3 ~4.4.5 ~4.4.7
         (4.5)   ~4.5.4
         {nls}
      Homepage:            http://gcc.gnu.org/
      Description:         GNAT Ada Compiler - gcc version

[UD] sys-devel/gcc
      Available versions:
         (2.95)  ~*2.95.3-r10!s
         (3.1)   *3.1.1-r2
         (3.2)   **3.2.2!s *3.2.3-r4
         (3.3)   (~)3.3.6-r1!s
         (3.4)   3.4.6-r2!s
         (4.0)   ~*4.0.4!s
         (4.1)   4.1.2!s
         (4.2)   (~)4.2.4-r1!s
         (4.3)   (~)4.3.3-r2!s 4.3.4!s (~)4.3.5!s 4.3.6-r1!s
         (4.4)   (~)4.4.2!s (~)4.4.3-r3!s 4.4.4-r2!s 4.4.5!s 4.4.6-r1!s 
4.4.7!s
         (4.5)   (~)4.5.1-r1!s (~)4.5.2!s 4.5.3-r2!s 4.5.4!s
         (4.6)   (~)4.6.0!s (~)4.6.1-r1!s (~)4.6.2!s 4.6.3!s (~)4.6.4!s
         (4.7)   (~)4.7.0!s (~)4.7.1!s (~)4.7.2-r1!s (~)4.7.3!s
         (4.8)   **4.8.0!s **4.8.1!s
         {altivec bootstrap boundschecking build cxx d doc fixed-point 
fortran gcj go graphite gtk hardened ip28 ip32r10k java libssp lto 
mudflap multilib multislot n32 n64 nls nopie nossp nptl objc objc++ 
objc-gc openmp regression-test static vanilla}
      Installed versions:  4.5.3-r2(4.5)!s(05:37:02 PM 01/18/2012)(cxx 
doc mudflap multilib nls nptl openmp -altivec -bootstrap -build 
-fixed-point -fortran -gcj -graphite -gtk -hardened -libffi -libssp -lto 
-multislot -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla) 
4.8.2(4.8)!s(04:43:17 PM 02/28/2014)(cxx doc multilib nls nptl openmp 
-altivec -awt -fixed-point -fortran -gcj -go -graphite -hardened -libssp 
-mudflap -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc 
-regression-test -vanilla)
      Homepage:            http://gcc.gnu.org/
      Description:         The GNU Compiler Collection

*I am not counting gcc-aux as it is not comparable to the count from 
portage main gcc*. I am only counting the main official gcc ports.

Note gcc gnat is also an entirely separate thing.

I don't know what GCC-AUX is and it's still not part of the 34* count 
from portage there on gcc alone.

GCC-AUX: http://www.dragonlace.net/

That's not official GCC, it's a derivative. I commend and thank you for 
your work, but it's not part of my point.

-- 
Regards,
Bryan Drewery



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