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Date:      Thu, 23 Mar 2000 20:34:13 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" <jeroen@vangelderen.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Audit List <freebsd-audit@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Portmapper enabled, IPv6 circumvents FW
Message-ID:  <v0422080cb5002170b286@[195.238.1.121]>
In-Reply-To: <200003231923.MAA42847@harmony.village.org>
References:  <38DA6D77.FB93FC36@vangelderen.org> <200003231923.MAA42847@harmony.village.org>

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At 12:23 PM -0700 2000/3/23, Warner Losh wrote:

>  I've been sent patches that make *ALL* network services off by
>  default.  I'm thinking seriously about committing them to at least
>  -current and maybe to -stable also.  These patches also hack
>  sysinstall to enable them in /etc/rc.conf so as to not effectively
>  change our system defaults.

	I would like very much to see these patches get committed, so 
that the box tends to be secure by default out-of-the-box, and then 
you turn on the additional features you want/need.

	I know that this may make the system a bit harder to use, but I 
think that's a better alternative than making the boxes easier to DoS 
or break into by default.


	Myself, after I've got a machine done with the initial install, I 
go through and turn off virtually everything, before I start adding 
stuff.  If I can install from CD, that means I don't even connect the 
network until the base OS is on the box and I've turned off 
everything I possibly can.

	It would be nice for me if this installation procedure were a 
little easier to do, because that's the way the OS installs 
out-of-the-box.

--
   These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy
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