Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:05:31 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?Q3phbmlrLCBQw6l0ZXI=?= <peter.czanik@balabit.com> To: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Cy Schubert <cy@freebsd.org>, Peter Czanik <czanik@balabit.hu> Subject: Re: svn commit: r364739 - in head: . sysutils sysutils/syslog-ng-devel sysutils/syslog-ng-devel/files Message-ID: <CANcUavtEkUhoskYyNmSVUJPi5-z=9OkO0iyf8isG62j5G5LWdA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201408122006.s7CK5o3U039963@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <freebsd.contact@marino.st> <53EA6EBB.2010802@marino.st> <201408122006.s7CK5o3U039963@slippy.cwsent.com>
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Hi, On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> wrote: > In message <53EA6EBB.2010802@marino.st>, John Marino writes: >> On 8/12/2014 21:39, Cy Schubert wrote: >> > Author: cy >> > Date: Tue Aug 12 19:39:33 2014 >> > New Revision: 364739 >> > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/364739 >> > QAT: https://qat.redports.org/buildarchive/r364739/ >> > >> > Log: >> > Reintroduce syslog-ng-devel for 3.6.0alpha2. >> > >> > Submitted by: Peter Czanik <peter.czanik@balabit.com> (syslog-ng upli >> ne) >> >> >> Do Ports really need alpha quality -devel ports in the collection? >> >> If it were up to me I'd purge 90% of our -devel ports. I tried to start >> a conversation about a policy for these with portmgr, but as usual, only >> one person responded. I'd still like to have that conversation though. >> This -devel port trend is disturbing. > > Some people actually use this stuff, bleeding edge -CURRENT with bleeding > edge ports. If people want to try out and test new software on the latest > -CURRENT, by the time the rest of us use the release-ready versions most of > the bugs have been ironed out. At the expense of a little repo bloat our > upline and users receive a better product in the end. That's it. Our users are asking for the alpha releases to be easily available, as they need some of the new features. So I prepare Linux packages and FreeBSD ports, as building from source without package management is not acceptable for most users. And it's also good for us, syslog-ng upstream, as most of the development is done on Linux, and having alpha releases in FreeBSD helps to keep syslog-ng multi-platform. Any Linux only code surfaces easily when I start packaging for FreeBSD :) Once the -devel port is mature enough (after a few maintenance releases) it is moved to sysutils/syslog-ng and the old syslog-ng port is moved to a versioned port, like sysutils/syslog-ng34. The 3.3 version is reaching end of life soon, so that port will be removed later this year, or early next year. Bye, -- Peter Czanik (CzP) <peter.czanik@balabit.com> BalaBit IT Security / syslog-ng upstream http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/ https://twitter.com/PCzanik
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