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Date:      Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:28:20 -0700
From:      Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
To:        "Randal L. Schwartz" <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
Cc:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
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On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 06:46, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> w=
rote:
>>>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert <jules.stocks@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Jules> Look, I'm just a user. =C2=A0I'm not a Java developer, not a langu=
age
> Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. =C2=A0But folks, we got prob=
lems! =C2=A0I
> Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a
> Jules> browser.
>
> And that's why I challenged you as to "why". =C2=A0We needed Java to run =
in
> the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. =C2=A0But wi=
th
> HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"?
>
> Java had its day. =C2=A0Time to move on.

Why Java? I've worked with several SSL VPNs (SonicWall, Juniper,
Aventail) for $WORK, and they all require a java-enabled browser - so
unless you're suggesting that DHTML and HTML5 can replace that, I need
a java-enabled browser.

Aside from that, there are some really nice apps written in Java -
including Data Crow, which is a pretty decent cataloging utility for
my books and movies and such, and I haven't seen anything nearly as
good as that written in a cross-platform language, so that I can move
it between my FreeBSD machine and my family's Windows machines.

Kurt



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