Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:55:14 +0800 From: =?UTF-8?B?QyBCZXJnc3Ryw7Zt?= <cbergstrom@pathscale.com> To: Eric McCorkle <eric@metricspace.net> Cc: Jules Gilbert <repeatable_compression@yahoo.com>, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com>, Freebsd Security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org>, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Intel hardware bug Message-ID: <CAOnawYpe5V-kUn4tLWKyBcDmsKqUP9-VNRhfDG48VMFWFbq6Vw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <250f3a77-822b-fba5-dcd7-758dfec94554@metricspace.net> References: <736a2b77-d4a0-b03f-8a6b-6a717f5744d4@metricspace.net> <2594.1515141192@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <809675000.867372.1515146821354@mail.yahoo.com> <250f3a77-822b-fba5-dcd7-758dfec94554@metricspace.net>
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On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Eric McCorkle <eric@metricspace.net> wrote: > On 01/05/2018 05:07, Jules Gilbert wrote: > > Sorry guys, you just convinced me that no one, not the NSA, not the FSB, > > no one!, has in the past, or will in the future be able to exploit this > > to actually do something not nice. > > Attacks have already been demonstrated, pulling secrets out of kernel > space with meltdown and http headers/passwords out of a browser with > spectre. Javascript PoCs are already in existence, and we can expect > them to find their way into adware-based malware within a week or two. > > Also, I'd be willing to bet you a year's rent that certain three-letter > organizations have known about and used this for some time. > > > So what is this, really?, it's a market exploit opportunity for AMD. > > Don't bet on it. There's reports of AMD vulnerabilities, also for ARM. > I doubt any major architecture is going to make it out unscathed. (But > if one does, my money's on Power) > Nope, the only arch that I'm aware of that gets past this is SPARC(hah!) due to the seperate userland and kernel memory virtualization.home | help
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