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Date:      Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:41:58 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com>, Jeff Roberson <jroberson@jroberson.net>, FreeBSD current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Strange ARC/Swap/CPU on yesterday's -CURRENT
Message-ID:  <20180325104158.GB6612@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <2b3db2af-03c7-65ff-25e7-425cfd8815b6@FreeBSD.org>
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On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 04:21:32PM -0700, Bryan Drewery wrote:

> On 3/20/2018 12:07 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> > 
> > On 2018-Mar-11 10:43:58 -1000, Jeff Roberson <jroberson@jroberson.net> wrote:
> >> Also, if you could try going back to r328953 or r326346 and let me know if 
> >> the problem exists in either.  That would be very helpful.  If anyone is 
> >> willing to debug this with me contact me directly and I will send some 
> >> test patches or debugging info after you have done the above steps.
> > 
> > I ran into this on 11-stable and tracked it to r326619 (MFC of r325851).
> > I initially got around the problem by reverting that commit but either
> > it or something very similar is still present in 11-stable r331053.
> > 
> > I've seen it in my main server (32GB RAM) but haven't managed to reproduce
> > it in smaller VBox guests - one difficulty I faced was artificially filling
> > ARC.
> > 
> 
> Looking at the ARC change you referred to from r325851
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12163, I am convinced that ARC backpressure
> is completely broken. On my 78GB RAM system with ARC limited to 40GB and
> doing a poudriere build of all LLVM and GCC packages at once in tmpfs I
> can get swap up near 50GB and yet the ARC remains at 40GB through it
> all.  It's always been slow to give up memory for package builds but it
> really seems broken right now.

Can you test: revert all 'needfree' related commits and applay
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D7538 ?




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