Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:09:38 +0000 From: Brian Somers <brian@shift.lan.awfulhak.org> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt <sos@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Cc: brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backspace = ^H Message-ID: <199703251409.OAA00279@shift.lan.awfulhak.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:37:46 %2B0100." <199703251238.NAA10221@ravenock.cybercity.dk>
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> In reply to Brian Somers who wrote:
> > > In reply to Brian Somers who wrote:
> > >
> > > *SIGH*, why does this come up again and again??
> >
> > 'cos it doesn't make sense (*stir* *stir* *stir*).
>
> Yes it does :)
>
> > > > The DEL key would send whatever the Backspace key doesn't.
> > > >
> > > > (I'd prefer BS=^?, DEL=^h)
> > >
> > > BS = BACKSPACE = 0x08
> > > DEL = DELETE = 0x7f
> > >
> > > Why on earth should they be reversed contradicting their names ??
> >
> > So that emacs' help system can work. Why would reversing them
> > contradict their names ?
>
> Change emacs ??
>
> Because "back space" in ascii parlour is 0x08, and "delete" is 0x7f
> thats why....go check an ascii chart...
Yep - it just occurred to me to look at an ascii chart.
> > > Now, BSD then has a funny old behavior of having the std erase one
> > > char set to 0x7f, but thats only for hysterical reasons...
> >
> > And then it stty's it to 0x08 in roots .profile..... If people really
> > insist on BS=0x08 and DEL=0x7f, then so be it, but the default erase
> > should be changed to 0x08 too (and the stty removed from roots .profile).
>
> Well, I dont se whats wrong with changing it if one likes it another
> way, but we caould easily agree on the default erase char should be
> back space aka 0x08. This however breaks with BSD hysteria...
Ok, so this is my point. The hysterical idea is wrong :)
I now agree that 0x08 is the right thing to send for a BS, so
we need to have the default erase as 0x08 and remove the stty
from /.profile and /root/.profile (a link anyway).
Any disagreements (freebsd-hackers) ?
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > > Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team
> > > Even more code to hack -- will it ever end
> > > ..
> >
> > ARRRRGH ! I had to install metamail to reply to this !
>
> Welcome to the modern 8 bit age :), I like to se my name
> spelled with the right letters :)
>
grumble.
--
Brian <brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> <brian@freebsd.org>
<http://www.awfulhak.demon.co.uk>;
Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour !
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