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Date:      Sat, 4 Apr 2026 07:50:00 -0700
From:      bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>
To:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Etcupdate runtime has more than doubled....Why?
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On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 12:20:11PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
> On 4/1/26 12:10, Mark Millard wrote:
> > On 4/1/26 11:34, bob prohaska wrote:
> >> On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 11:00:56AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> etcupdate has the option:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -B            Do not build generated files in a private object tree.
> >>>               Instead, reuse the generated files from a previously built
> >>>               object tree that matches the source tree.  This can be
> >>>               useful to avoid gratuitous conflicts in sendmail(8)
> >>>               configuration files when bootstrapping.  It can also be
> >>>               useful for building a tarball that matches a specific
> >>>               world build.
> >>>

I misunderstood the gist of the description, thinking -B was intended
only for special cases of multiple source and object trees. 

In fact -B seems to solve my problem entirely, etcupdate finishes
in minutes now, not hours.

Thanks to all who responded!

bob prohaska

 



> >>>
> >>> So, if one already has the required context, its use might be relevant.
> >>> Of course, without the proper context, it should not be used.
> >>>
> >>> What was the context-status and use vs. not for -B ?
> >>
> >> There's only one /usr/obj on the system.
> >>
> >> The buildworld command used was
> >> make -j3   KERNCONF=GENERIC  TARGET=arm TARGET_ARCH=armv7 buildworld
> >> and the etcupdate command following buildworld was
> >> etcupdate -p
> >>
> >> After installing world and kernel, etcupdate runs again as
> >> etcupdate
> >>
> >> Might using etcupdate -B in the second invocation be a remedy?
> > 
> > Extracted/simplified from my more overall scripts full of local details:
> > 
> > # make WITH_META_MODE=yes buildworld
> > # make WITH_META_MODE=yes buildkernel
> > # etcupdate -p
> > # etcupdate resolve -p
> > # make WITH_META_MODE=yes installkernel
> 
> Note for live updating the booted file system:
> 
> # # Possibly: vi /boot/loader.conf
> # shutdown -r now
> . . .
> 
> (I have contexts that do not involve that.)
> 
> 
> > # make WITH_META_MODE=yes installworld
> > # etcupdate -B
> > # etcupdate resolve
> > # make delete-old check-old
> > # #AS NEEDED for timing?: make delete-old-libs
> > # etcupdate status
> 
> Note for live updates the booted file system or just wanting to:
> 
> # # Possibly: vi /boot/loader.conf
> # shutdown -r now
> . . .
> 
> (I have contexts that do not involve that. For those I may deal with
> booting at some later time for some other reason.)
> 
> > 
> >>
> >> Thanks for writing!
> >>
> >> bob prohaska
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ===
> Mark Millard
> marklmi at yahoo.com


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