Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Daniel Flickinger <attila@hun.org> To: Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Patrick Hartling <patrick@137.org>, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: you need to install a new kernel before an installworld. Message-ID: <20021028195551.fKMW8394@hun.org> In-Reply-To: <20021028054715.A11208@FreeBSD.org> References: <3DBD3D03.9030507@137.org> <20021025192535.EF82F2A88D@canning.wemm.org>
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Sent: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:47:15 -0800 by Juli Mallett
+ What sorts of problems are you running into? Also, how old was your
+ kernel, and how old is your userland? With no more info, I'd prolly
+ advise you to update everything to the latest, and if problems persist,
+ rebuild your GNOME stuff, and if problems persist, throw exception...
+
+ But the latter bits of that are a bit drastic, depending on the hw!
As drastic as that sounds, you save time! Even when you
have been tracking CURRENT since FreeBSD 1.
I had 300+ entries in the package table, most of which
were running until the compiler/loader changes on 15
Aug. Nothing but trouble trying to build new ports.
Configure blew out, etc.
After the configure problem, a 'find' for a stray 'cpp'
turned up a 1998 gcc copy labeled 'unknown-freebsd-2.2'
in /usr/local/lib/gcc...!
That did it...
The really critical stuff like apache with PHP/SSL/etc,
Postfix, etc. I maintain outside the loop, and were
giving me no problems --I just rebuilt them. But, on the
rest, I had spent close to 10 days with generally poor
results. Finally, X ran...
I had been updating daily from cvs, so I set DESTDIR for
a 2G partition and ran installworld for it. Then one
by one I wasted /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/include,
/usr/lib, /usr/libexec, /usr/sbin --even X, and tar'd
from the fresh installworld --permissions and all. Other
than my critical programs (I wiped 1.5 gigs off
/usr/local) there was trash there that was older than
the 1998 gcc! --even the main directories were a mess.
I flushed /var/db/pkg and started over, pulling packages
first for X and its requirements, then Xemacs, Mozilla,
and Gimp --all from snapshot, installing pre-requisites
manually before each of the packages. I only have 60
packages installed --don't know what the other 240
entries were, but obviously they were just burning space.
The bottom line is that I spent ONE day doing a TOTAL
fresh system --but I wasted 10 days before getting
smart --and, I don't have any historical baggage.
Frankly, even permitting upgrade from 4+ is suicidal.
Yes... YMMV
attila out!
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