Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:30:32 +0200 From: John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st> To: =?UTF-8?B?IkN6YW5paywgUMOpdGVyIg==?= <peter.czanik@balabit.com>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Cy Schubert <cy@freebsd.org>, Peter Czanik <czanik@balabit.hu> Subject: Re: svn commit: r364739 - in head: . sysutils sysutils/syslog-ng-devel sysutils/syslog-ng-devel/files Message-ID: <53EB1418.7010306@marino.st> In-Reply-To: <CANcUavtEkUhoskYyNmSVUJPi5-z=9OkO0iyf8isG62j5G5LWdA@mail.gmail.com> References: <freebsd.contact@marino.st> <53EA6EBB.2010802@marino.st> <201408122006.s7CK5o3U039963@slippy.cwsent.com> <CANcUavtEkUhoskYyNmSVUJPi5-z=9OkO0iyf8isG62j5G5LWdA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 8/13/2014 09:05, Czanik, Péter wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> wrote: >> Some people actually use this stuff, bleeding edge -CURRENT with bleeding >> edge ports. If people want to try out and test new software on the latest >> -CURRENT, by the time the rest of us use the release-ready versions most of >> the bugs have been ironed out. At the expense of a little repo bloat our >> upline and users receive a better product in the end. > > That's it. Our users are asking for the alpha releases to be easily > available, as they need some of the new features. So I prepare Linux > packages and FreeBSD ports, as building from source without package > management is not acceptable for most users. And it's also good for > us, syslog-ng upstream, as most of the development is done on Linux, > and having alpha releases in FreeBSD helps to keep syslog-ng > multi-platform. Any Linux only code surfaces easily when I start > packaging for FreeBSD :) > Once the -devel port is mature enough (after a few maintenance > releases) it is moved to sysutils/syslog-ng and the old syslog-ng port > is moved to a versioned port, like sysutils/syslog-ng34. The 3.3 > version is reaching end of life soon, so that port will be removed > later this year, or early next year. > Bye, > Thank Peter, You obviously make a strong case. I'm basically asking that each "-devel" port maintainer (which I agree should also maintain the stable port) be able to make a strong case for their port and that the bar be set fairly high. With this rationale, you'd clear that bar. Of the 140 other ports, I think many maintainers would have more trouble justifying the existence of the port. Thanks for weighing in, John
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