Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 12:07:41 -0400 From: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> To: Gary Palmer <gpalmer@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update Message-ID: <c16bfed1-52bb-560c-c73f-1edd0c1f876e@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <YGNLkDpHtIuaO3xp@in-addr.com> References: <YGMpE5uWvRy8Xdql@cloud.zyxst.net> <aad6ecc5-f6b0-92c5-1acb-e9666760e813@madpilot.net> <7e96f815-2955-cfd2-cf6d-16187bc5a233@denninger.net> <YGNLkDpHtIuaO3xp@in-addr.com>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050908080708030604090704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/30/2021 12:02, Gary Palmer wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:55:24AM -0400, Karl Denninger wrote: >> On 3/30/2021 11:22, Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable wrote: >>> On 30/03/21 15:35, tech-lists wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Recently there was >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2021-March/0103= 80.html >>>> >>>> about openssl. Upgraded to 12.2-p5 with freebsd-update and rebooted.= >>>> >>>> What I'm unsure about is the openssl version. >>>> Up-to-date 12.1-p5 instances report OpenSSL 1.1.1h-freebsd? 22 Sep 2= 020 >>>> >>>> Up-to-date stable/13-n245043-7590d7800c4 reports OpenSSL 1.1.1k-free= bsd >>>> 25 Mar 2021 >>>> >>>> shouldn't the 12.2-p5 be reporting openssl 1.1.1k-freebsd as well? >>>> >>> No, as you can see in the commit in the official git [1] while for >>> current and stable the new upstream version of openssl was imported f= or >>> the release the fix was applied without importing the new release and= >>> without changing the reported version of the library. >>> >>> So with 12.2p5 you do get the fix but don't get a new version of the >>> library. >>> >>> >>> [1] https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=3Dreleng/12.2&id=3Daf61348= d61f51a88b438d41c3c91b56b2b65ed9b >>> >>> >> Excuse me.... >> >> $ uname -v >> FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p4 GENERIC >> $ sudo sh >> # freebsd-update fetch >> Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. >> Fetching metadata signature for 12.2-RELEASE from update4.freebsd.org.= =2E. >> done. >> Fetching metadata index... done. >> Inspecting system... done. >> Preparing to download files... done. >> >> No updates needed to update system to 12.2-RELEASE-p5. >> >> I am running 12.2-RELEASE-p4, so says uname -v >> >> IMHO it is an *extraordinarily* bad practice to change a library that = in >> fact will result in a revision change while leaving the revision numbe= r >> alone. >> >> How do I *know*, without source to go look at, whether or not the fix = is >> present on a binary system? >> >> If newvers.sh gets bumped then a build and -p5 release should have res= ulted >> from that, and in turn a fetch/install (and reboot of course since it'= s in >> the kernel) should result in uname -v returning "-p5" >> >> Most of my deployed "stuff" is on -STABLE but I do have a handful of >> machines on cloud infrastructure that are binary-only and on which I r= ely on >> freebsd-update and pkg to keep current with security-related items. > What does "freebsd-version -u" report? The fix was only to a userland > library, so I would not expect the kernel version as reported by uname > to change. > > Regards, > > Gary Ok, that's fair; it DOES show -p5 for the user side. $ freebsd-version -ru 12.2-RELEASE-p4 12.2-RELEASE-p5 So that says my userland is -p5 while the kernel, which did not change=20 (even though if you built from source it would carry the -p5 number) is -= p4. I can live with that as it allows me to "see" that indeed the revision=20 is present without having source on the box. I recognize that this is probably a reasonably-infrequent thing but it=20 certainly is one that for people running binary releases is likely quite = important given that the issue is in the openssl libraries.=C2=A0 It was = enough for me to rebuild all the firewall machines the other day since a = DOS (which is reasonably possible for one of the flaws) aimed at my VPN=20 server causing the server process to exit would be...... bad. --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net <mailto:karl@denninger.net> /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms050908080708030604090704 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC DdgwggagMIIEiKADAgECAhMA5EiKghDOXrvfxYxjITXYDdhIMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGL 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