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Date:      Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:02:23 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Spam lists
Message-ID:  <199607021902.MAA08635@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <m0uaxFD-0008rbC@agora.rdrop.com> from "Alan Batie" at Jul 1, 96 09:39:23 pm

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> > How about a "companies who have spammed our lists" area on the WWW
> > page so we can know who not to buy from?
> 
> See http://www.ip.net/BL/blacklist.html for a more comprehensive listing,
> and a place to add such to...

1)	It should be readily available to FreeBSD users in particular.

2)	We should not condemn those which have not spammed our lists,
	only those which have.

3)	I am less likely to look through a page with a "blacklist"
	on it that is unrelated to FreeBSD.  I don't care if people
	spam where I can't see it.

4)	Blacklists are tehnically illegal.  I was only calling for a
	"people who have spammed our lists" list, and the "we" was
	the royal "we" -- I won't buy from them, and I will advise
	my friends not to buy from them, but it would not be a good
	idea to advise people not to buy from them on the WWW page,
	since that could be legally construed as restraint of trade.
	A list of spammers has no such provable negative connotations;
	I may be a wierdo who will buy from them because they have
	taken notice of FreeBSD, and bad publicity is better than
	none (for example).  "We've been spammed!  We're SOMEBODY!".

I have no desire to engage of "http://www.ip.net/BL/blacklist.html"
style restraint of trade tactics, only notification of list spamming,
where the lists constitute a "select group"... which is perfectly
legal, if all you do is identify what they did, and not what you
recommend people do about it.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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