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Date:      Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:45:15 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>
To:        Charles Youse <cyouse@artemis.syncom.net>
Cc:        freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Sun4c/Sun4m
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980706144048.10970S-100000@sasami.jurai.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96.980706113944.23566C-100000@artemis.syncom.net>

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On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Charles Youse wrote:
> * Net/OpenBSD are nice, but generally unpolished (on any architecture).
> Sparc support in general is sub-par.

I don't find this to be the case, but if you are expecting a snazzy
install program you will be disappointed, and probably come to the
conclusion you state.

I find NetBSD's install procedure (or rather the one I use to install
NetBSD) works very well for workstations with the ability to netboot.

I wouldn't do the same thing on a peecee though.

> I think FreeBSD is polished, professional, and stable.  While the port to
> the Ultra is obviously paramount, I'd still like to see FreeBSD on the 4m
> and 4c, as those machines are aging but still usable. 

Agreed.

NetBSD now has a sparc64 port in their current tree and appears to run on
the Ultra1 workstation/server machines (judging from their GENERIC file).

I'm inclined to wait until current switches to ELF completly before
mucking about with sparc support in FreeBSD.

Following the footsteps of the FreeBSD/Alpha people wouldn't be a bad idea
as they seem to have broken much of the ground.

> If you can provide some technical documentation here and there (many
> questions can be answered by looking at *BSD and Linux source ...)  I'm
> willing and able to take on those architectures.  Is anybody currently
> working on that?

Use the source.

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