Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:27:14 -0800 From: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Cc: Shane Ambler <FreeBSD@shaneware.biz>, "Janky Jay, III" <jankyj@unfs.us>, FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: The ports collection has some serious issues Message-ID: <CAN6yY1u3yFkP-=G-THUHdiP=ZFy47RcueSnhX-DMw4X9mB5G3A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201612121931.uBCJV0qO022291@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <aea50699-2938-0fee-38bc-1bcdf4b7f8cc@ShaneWare.Biz> <201612121931.uBCJV0qO022291@fire.js.berklix.net>
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote:
> > I would say this rarely happens with the default setup, the more port
> > options you change the more likely it is something will break.
>
> Yes, I now start: cd /var/db/ports; mv * MV/* ; setenv NO_DIALOG=YES
> Before: cd /usr/ports; make BERKLIX_CLIENT=YES # Uses
> ports/*/Makefile.local
> (still innumerable breaks of course on 1200 ports inc deps.)
>
> I can re-enable options for a 2nd pass rebuild for the very
> few ports need it (maybe some better way?).
>
> poudriere's `-f' is nice to accept a list.
> But I havent found a way to build my list yet from my Makefile.local eg
> cd /usr/ports; make BERKLIX_CLIENT=YES echo_my_category_and_port
> I'll probably hack bsd.port.mk & bsd.port.subdir.mk
>
> ${CATEGORIES}/${PORTNAME} is not quite usable, as eg mail/exmh2 emits
> "mail tk/exmh". Maybe just `pwd` & strip with sed PORTSDIR ?
>
> Cheers,
> Julian
> --
> Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix Sys Eng Consultant Munich
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Just to d one more opinion to this thread, I really agree with Julian that
there needs to be a saved quarterly and an active quarterly for exactly the
reasons he stated. the jump from quarter to quarter obviates many of the
advantages of a quarterly branch
Second, I am a bit bewildered at the people who have so much trouble with
building from ports. I use portmaster and really wish there was an option
to try to continue when a port bombs, but it works well for me. Just this
weekend I had to re-build about 90 ports and it went of without a hitch. It
is to have at least some understanding of how ports work to minimize
problems. Thing like MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE and trying to wait a bit (a few
hours) and trying to update the sources when something fails. I do wish all
of this was better documented, though. Guess I should try doing something
about that.
--
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
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