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Date:      Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:35:31 -0700
From:      "DiCioccio, Jason" <jdicioccio@epylon.com>
To:        'Jon Bergfeld' <jbergfel@yahoo.com>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip
Message-ID:  <657B20E93E93D4118F9700D0B73CE3EA02FFF538@goofy.epylon.lan>

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Give me a break, he's not trolling, he's making a valid point.  Perhaps some
of the current FTP mirrors could mirror the releng_4_[0-9] snapshots
currently on ftp://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org (as Chris Faulhaber posted).
The snapshots are being made none the less though so it looks like this
might be the answer to his problem/question.  

Cheers,
- -JD-

- -----Original Message-----
From: Jon Bergfeld [mailto:jbergfel@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:18 AM
To: security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip


look, the existing process seems to work fine for everyone else, so if
you want a new way to upgrade, develop it yourself.

now stop trolling and let's move on.


- --- Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> wrote:
> At 11:54 AM 4/18/2002, Jamie Norwood wrote:
> 
> >> Not true at all. What administrators using FreeBSD need is not
> >> "hand-holding" but a way to upgrade to a known good snapshot.
> >> Not necessarily the absolute latest, but one with the needed
> >> patches which others have seen to work.
> >
> >This is RELENG_4_5. What are you looking for that it does not 
> >provide? 
> 
> This is a CVS tag, not a build. Also, what you get when you
> bring it in will change over time, so you can't easily answer
> the question, "What patch level is this server running?"
> What's needed is builds either from this or from -STABLE
> (with testing to make sure nothing's broken) that one can
> download and install without recompiling the world. With
> numbers such that one can say, "This server is at -p3 and
> a new security hole was found.... I'll upgrade to -p4 tonight."
> Simple, convenient, and likely to work without fuss, so that
> we can install the build and get back to more important things,
> like developing code.
> 
> --Brett
> 
> 
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