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Date:      Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:17:30 -0500
From:      "R. Tyler Ballance" <tyler@tamu.edu>
To:        Toxa <postfix@sendmail.ru>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: boot banner project
Message-ID:  <A3719B10-3CF3-4D6B-A168-0D635D5AA3E8@tamu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20050429010318.GB17799@laptoxa.toxa.lan>
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> As I've told before, I personally strictly dislike idea to add  
> something
> till then it's really necessary and desirable.  In my humble opinion,
> polishing representaton of a boot process is generally bad idea. It
> brings nothing useful into boot process, adds more code into system  
> (We
> all don't want freebsd to be bloated, do we?), and don't makes such  
> users as
> you described above more clever.
>

I think you're mistaking convenience for bloat...someone mentioned  
the old redhat boot process earlier, and I can agree with them, that  
that was, convenient, easy to read, and in no way seemed to add any  
bloat to the ASCII output.

Now, a pretty image, a la FreeSBIE, _is_ bloat, but I don't think  
that's what is being mentioned or suggested here.

Toxa, you make Window Managers, and a lot of GUI apps that make  
things like, using MacOS X sound terribly bloated, don't discount  
aesthetics right off the bat, they're not always "evil bloat"

-R. Tyler Ballance



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