Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:43:58 -0600 (MDT) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> To: fjoe@samodelkin.net Cc: kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys mbuf.h src/sys/kern uipc_mbuf.c uipc_syscalls.c src/usr.bin/netstat mbuf.c src/lib/libc/sys sendfile.2 Message-ID: <20040618.094358.10545565.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20040618085237.GA19561@samodelkin.net> References: <20040617204813.GA10670@samodelkin.net> <20040617214827.GB6029@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <20040618085237.GA19561@samodelkin.net>
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Max Khon <fjoe@samodelkin.net> writes:
: Hi, Ken!
:
: On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 05:48:27PM -0400, Ken Smith wrote:
:
: > I may work with student programmers too much, but I'm afraid my imagination
: > is a bit better than yours in this case. :-(
: >
: > I don't defend it as being the right way to do things, but in cases where
: > the user is interested in "most of" the output of something they will often
: > take the approach of removing things they don't want instead of selecting
: > things they do want. This change would add an extra line to what the
: > next stage of processing would see if that approach is used.
: >
: > This particular change is a case of nit-picking. It's small, hard to
: > imagine how it could effect someone, etc. But even Bosko said more
: > caution 'next time' would be good, I'm just emphasizing why. To some
: > extent the output of programs has been an API ever since pipes were
: > invented. And unless I'm severely mistaken one of the things we have
: > tried to avoid is changing API's once a branch goes -STABLE.
:
: Yes, this is a case of nit-picking.
:
: And I think it might be better if people will stop mentoring
: other developers when they are not asked to (this is not directed to you).
But Ken has been asked to. HE's on the re@ team, and they monitor the
-stable branch.
Also, there are many times that it is *GOOD* to mentor other
developers. They sometimes go off the rails and need some help to get
back on the rails.
Personally, I think people in this discussion are too worried about
being RIGHT and less worried about doing what's RIGHT for the
project. That's the real issue.
Warner
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