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Date:      Wed, 15 Oct 2025 16:39:02 +0300
From:      Sulev-Madis Silber <freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: should FreeBSD-dhclient depend on FreeBSD-resolvconf?
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On October 15, 2025 3:28:01 PM GMT+03:00, Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd=2Eorg> =
wrote:
>Matteo Riondato wrote in <43B68BB6-02FA-470E-A8C5-99D15E3707D7@FreeBSD=2E=
org>:
>> > On Oct 15, 2025, at 8:16 AM, Lexi Winter <ivy@FreeBSD=2Eorg> wrote:
>> > NB, "set-minimal-jail" is not intended to be the smallest possible se=
t
>> > of packages for a jail; it's meant to be "minimal" (the basic base sy=
stem)
>> > for jails=2E  so if dhclient use in jails is widespread, we should pr=
obably
>> > add it to minimal-jail=2E
>=20
>> So does =E2=80=9Cminimal=E2=80=9D really mean =E2=80=9Ctypical=E2=80=9D=
?=20
>=20
>no=2E  the project has no opinion on what a "typical jail" might contain=
=2E
>
>"minimal" is the minimal supported configuration for a multi-user UNIX
>system, i=2Ee=2E the packages that people need to install to bring up a
>standard FreeBSD system and have things work as expected=2E
>
>"minimal-jail" is "minimal" without software that doesn't work in jails=
=2E
>dhclient obviously works in jails, but i ommitted it since i thought it
>was extremely uncommon to use dhclient in a jail=2E  but if this is more
>common than i thought, we can add it=2E

unsure how much we should add to minimal become it comes generic, usual or=
 "maximal" (:p)

i run full separate networking in my otherwise shared fs non-pkgbase-yet r=
o-/ & ro-/usr/local jails with dynamic v4/v6 ip / dns assigns, so i indeed =
do run all of this

others might not=2E but dhclient is maybe small, we can afford adding it i=
n and not have people cursing of large deps and ton of space

i think that ones who actually need full custom jails have passed the offi=
cial sets anyway and created their own, just like i've done for my embedded=
 things



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