Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 15:58:42 -0800 From: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> To: Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> Cc: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Anyone know how to get FreeBSD on a framework 13 laptop? Message-ID: <20251219235842.19AB0194@slippy.cwsent.com> In-Reply-To: <b36150cbaf14ac3556b49cb13448b810@bsdforge.com> References: <63ebfc5a49b38196ead43b7403f0a12c@bsdforge.com> <20251210063425.88020295@slippy.cwsent.com> <e82ea00af8810db582f801c65fefe3a5@bsdforge.com> <b36150cbaf14ac3556b49cb13448b810@bsdforge.com>
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In message <b36150cbaf14ac3556b49cb13448b810@bsdforge.com>, Chris writes: > --=_1b0692ae38549bba337f38a469e0c31c > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > > On 2025-12-09 23:35, Chris wrote: > > On 2025-12-09 22:34, Cy Schubert wrote: > >> In message <63ebfc5a49b38196ead43b7403f0a12c@bsdforge.com>, Chris writes: > >>> --=_1fa5024c3e762cfee18202d6a7376470 > >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; > >>> format=flowed > >>> > >>> OK because I know you're going to ask... :-) > >>> > >>> framework 13 laptop (MSI Crosshair 18 HX AI A2XWGKG-012US)[1],[2] > >>> CPU: Intel Core Ultra 9 Processor 275HX [3] > >>> GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Laptop GPU with NVIDIA Optimus supported [4] > >>> LAN: Realtec RTL???? 2.5Gb > >>> WiFi: Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX211(2*2 ax) > >>> > >>> I'm currently unable to boot any of 13.5,14.n,15.n or 16 on this laptop. > >>> On 13.5 it hangs on sc (syscons(4)?) connect... > >> > >> Add this, > >> > >> kern.vty=vt > >> > >> to your loader.conf. > > Really appreciate your taking the time to reply, Cy. > > Just tried this. But same results. FWIW, I only saw the syscons message > > on 13.5. I've since made a 16-CURRENT from the kernel,base and lib32 > > archives > > that were on ftp.freebsd.org (now missing). > >> > >> If you look at the sc(4) man page you will notice, > > I know. :) > > > >> As to how I got my Framework 13 (with AMD chipset) installed, I cloned > >> FreeBSD, including all data, from my HP 840, also running in UEFI mode, > >> changing fstab and rc.conf to customize a few things before booting the > >> Framework laptop. (The HP 840 also uses kern.vty=vt.) > > Close to what I did to get 16 on my framework 12. All the right bits weren' > t > > yet available at that time. All good now tho. > > > OK after booting 13.5-16 FreeBSD and all the BSD versions I > could find. They all ended at either: > > sc0 failed to probe on isa0 > > or > > atrtc1 : Warning: Couldn't map I/O. Can you describe your Framework 13? Does it have an Intel or AMD chipset? What's the BIOS version? -- Cheers, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD.org> Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: <cy@nwtime.org> Web: https://nwtime.org e**(i*pi)+1=0 > > Which seemed to me, that I simply lost the CON at that point. > So since it rebooted some 3 seconds after that point. I looked > at the dmesg.boot on my framework 12 to see if I might determine > where/what triggered the reboot. Looked like it might be the > nvme. So spun up a live Ubuntu image. It gave me a desktop and a > dmesg[1]. But no nvme drive! The drive options in the UEFI are > fairly basic. Turns out the drive is handled by the Intel VMD > Controller. Neither Linux nor BSD understand/have drivers for > the VMD Controller. Only Windows. Interestingly, rEFIt[2] does. > So I found a keyboard macro that exposes some 300+ additional > options/sub-options: ~200+ CPU / ~100+ arbitration and turned > off the VMD Controller in the CPU. Now Linux sees and will > manage the drive if I ask it to. On a hunch, I decided to give > OpenBSD a try. Booted perfectly[3] w/o any problems! Would > happily install to the drive if asked to! When did OpenBSD > become more advanced than FreeBSD? > > Here's hoping that the 2 dmesg files attached will help isolate > the problem. I'll happily perform any additional tasks requested. > > Thanks for all your time and consideration! > > --Chris > > > >> To boot the Framework from install media, break to the loader prompt and > >> type in, > >> > >> kern.vty=vt > >> > >> Then boot. Install FreeBSD. Finally, make sure kern.vty=vt is in the > >> installed image's loader.conf before rebooting the image. > >> > >> Hope this helps. > > > -- > There is no such place as the internet > --=_1b0692ae38549bba337f38a469e0c31c > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: application/pgp-keys; > name=0xE512722F.asc > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename=0xE512722F.asc; > size=3074 > > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > > mQENBGf/G0IBCADARuJc6IcwOe3jv7dQsP1X/EIHvCFExPbTmlMNFMXbMMccQUnV > o8ayEn+wmTvPhw7uL3PDk7DQs16W1sN2b8UMFc804cVWNGtoG3rA+Np+TFEYlXJx > eh5Q42VHptkuwzHKl+q2utkpRlS7uHyfjsInQAoHxLyi/wrsaZTHHhDbLLhJ5Ez0 > arohQ2Q1w0M5e9rW8Fy5rpC7RpC6uO1SZMxcbdqURI/BBqxbiD1iW62cDWFkfFX+ > dtaEXghFV7BIBMDSrgIunGoEfdMZgXys7O6bPWn8z0cuOZIPj4HrjoCYARyQ+sdc > rjz/k06SLM/UvEZDorJhT4DbYrwMNvaPWJiPABEBAAG0HkNocmlzIDxic2QtbGlz > dHNAYnNkZm9yZ2UuY29tPokBNQQQAQgAHwUCZ/8bQgYLCQcIAwIEFQgKAgMWAgEC > GQECGwMCHgEACgkQVKBqaOUSci8bSwf/fK3QcTYXRMrv82HIp4SiGCSD7/bRmyWr > ipv2vzknGFHxPBN4AEWIqF/U4j5oDXaodyU6xsy59Z47/lgbyzyZiVR6nmJVgZVf > el/EgwnLt7ZuYGLLEhIN2pd9itJkB8PMPZrUHMWgIw8BxX5YFYGuyiNe9pGn0Coj > 98t/v3fouhqksH+BpB4TBHJBBDSxSiMm66VTJX4Xcnpf0ZnQVP4GBuoyodnFBfdI > wqftPLESsCC08lUhD2j7v2NRWwMi/q3ed8D6VCKPImBByYnBZL5gu56K5bwqaQfN > itu06APuIYnG71qxgn1EPO63lovWP5NZGgOKvzs3K+JfPF79BiOUFbQjQ2hyaXMg > PG1haWxvcEBocmNvbW11bmljYXRpb25zLm5ldD6JATEEEAEIABwFAmf/G0IGCwkH > CAMCBBUICgIDFgIBAhsDAh4BAAoJEFSgamjlEnIvBH8H9RGwzZuU6+zvH1WjQa97 > yWpEt9rC+BIBJThev2Cpls2LqBqIeIQVZPnyLAZWgFaiezL6+xbvcNt6OnfidIYa > x8iRwCMC6/Bs8H2Wef9qfGxXi+jHPLYQk3juiZVmBhIK6FJZkzaW4wSiawofwzbp > zqNxO8dZ0j4foaJZrNi8iqsvKjiiHoSFaJtumIThAeydI18CNLeFaS53sk5nad6I > wCYeFKmJ/22dMP7DOFEgyG1iNYgY+AGREMkEsBiLpqYjJ5asK+1UdUy/TRly1hOt > HHxCiX0Fh9ZYM2vLIj7sq4LKaMPGeYC3qTqBYugVeyz7LkiI2ft/BKveA5JxuYKk > ZrQiQ2hyaXMgPG5hbm9nQGhyY29tbXVuaWNhdGlvbnMubmV0PokBMgQQAQgAHAUC > Z/8bQgYLCQcIAwIEFQgKAgMWAgECGwMCHgEACgkQVKBqaOUSci+4Bwf8D0Ogk2/X > ud/CsAgHozwzKPqfesL5SRWM14hLnU9/EHoplnZgNexbVY1wXIi2FYPo5cve9QxW > Nmt3S3UTF9j2fGqv0wmeHv3EqogFUHnftLyWpbeTPOFDMIQp/BOD6ygfeXxXWxRT > L6zvUkSrDtHvkQHPWGRxwP+ihWjpw9AQR/R4/qAuTAZZM0O7UnJEo4mWXatl+utF > wegG2giwFTTxfF+1rMpFtUDjYCpRQ6ZmE+gC1mHUMoH7GJMQv12DbqwKrxtwGfd0 > AJNO3ZDnxl24BmIfl1YqQGZQ5iIH7At4YItESbU45hoNNsG9oDrsil78EUCAtXHd > UPScj+eXaeAkgrQfQ2hyaXMgPHBvcnRtYXN0ZXJAYnNkZm9yZ2UuY29tPokBMgQQ > AQgAHAUCZ/8bQgYLCQcIAwIEFQgKAgMWAgECGwMCHgEACgkQVKBqaOUSci9o7Af+ > Lwu5hJlI5HZNGwAll7QTIFZVW+y4OEg+amhxTDGbAAqlnSIkHC1KgkmIOOrThme3 > kTFCqfIIsuP73yKxHq6kRG0zH5/7asAPNAUOfzD7B2o/gMyuTRKyG5r9f3UmACr4 > 6qvtFhIwROXr6+NNT2IKg3l0/8F58A0N/TR8D2PTHeo4x6jYcZQDCrCy7BAdk3cu > V16k4z/1UzRa07b5McezbWL20cIaZ+dqNcCjKZpzPlTyTCGgrNNtaDpNVhoWUKMB > YNcKql+tfC1IpX8l+IU6OBKcDKMkQojvO1QrZqY8MDJGo8jq/CtotQ8+IpAai3Bx > dQEsxrxlcKTR4rUqvd8VGbkBDQRn/xtCAQgAv5Nv/aQN72xsLik+K73PJwpUmyhu > vnI6stM6dSecylXVHjZ7C4n/m0eQEeQCl+9lByHR9N8H+WS3DtAd4pmciiIxRQLA > JZiuaLYcy9ziy1h7130VoR7hhJHzo9FIhWkTGlCDX3egUZrYhMiwFUO8lNltLB8o > TBvIrMSsnUzawtQjq/otv0Jf+oBPbG+gIYnAm7w6r86n/l+eVxf5eEoS7wV0DJfp > b2jE5zWErWk8I/tq4e8T+1VQeVQR6wz+NrUCSxkPkpNAm19AFUHOk//yvMGWVlDW > F6gr3ErN2a0w/kZ0lz3Msxsb87QT+MnJf/T3cuEqdTIoSk74BfNEAdMohQARAQAB > iQEfBBgBCAAJBQJn/xtCAhsMAAoJEFSgamjlEnIvyvIH/26zytSVNDaxtprg7XtX > LerIWf9RyVx8omCw/lXKRCcgkfwD7QR+nSZ0thWOGMpcnivjuReeVRkz/webUF47 > BXJ/Tge07nrxdtyTIHBbp35fPIriaKaII6YWc2Ufdxwv+cD8PADS6gQWAlgrWLmn > VmYtyHs4kwtiPZyUyuBdWnZal2GyYY0WVwYjvbk95eInwOaIdoTjesJ7ZhUFu155 > r4hh9GlvM0uv8WJ5Mw9wvHa5fIM205I5g0IWC7yvTwwwKHlV4JQQOqMwfv569OEl > 1GKqA12nSVziB1+UV+I0NqOABWi/MOi+IySPzYP+XgdPfRNx4vmoHYZwWOQ3t4Jd > TEM= > =oj6y > -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > > --=_1b0692ae38549bba337f38a469e0c31c--help
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