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Date:      Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:52:29 +0100
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.tfs.com>
To:        =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su>
Cc:        bde@zeta.org.au, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, kaleb@x.org
Subject:   Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP 
Message-ID:  <413.813840749@critter.tfs.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:23:35 %2B0300." <RkNIYWmyUH@ache.dialup.demos.ru> 

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> In message <214.813831228@critter.tfs.com> Poul-Henning Kamp writes:
> 
> >> >Yes, bloat is added even when ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE isn't set.  Bloat is
> >> >added even when no ctype function is called (this is normal for most
> >> >programs in /bin and /sbin - grep shows "ctype.h" in only 25 out of 80
> >> >programs in /usr/src/[s]bin.
> >> 
> >> It isn't accurate results. Many libc functions calls ctype
> >> indirecly, i.e. strtol, atoi, etc. You additionly need
> >> to grep ctype through libc and then grep function you got
> >> through bin/sbin. I suspect that 100% of programs use ctype
> >> for accurate results.
> 
> >Andrey, you have to realize that Bruce reported precise numbers, whereas
> >you just "suspect".  Please prove you point, and provide hard numbers.
> 
> Well, here more accurate results.
> 
> I build/install special crt0.o version which not calls reduced_setlocale()
> bloat.
> Then I rebuild bin/sbin. Then I use following csh script to find ones
> which not use ctype at all:

Did you rebuild static or dynamic ?  I will only belive numbers from a 
static rebuild...

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