Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:46:08 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org> Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> Subject: Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc Message-ID: <20150410084608.GW8220@zxy.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <20150410083949.GA99728@FreeBSD.org> References: <20150406085323.GL23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409215802.GY21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409232711.GZ21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409234026.GH1394@zxy.spb.ru> <20150410000259.GA21982@hades.panopticon> <20150410070845.GU8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150410073230.GE99375@FreeBSD.org> <20150410082049.GV8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150410083949.GA99728@FreeBSD.org>
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 08:39:49AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:20:49AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:32:30AM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:08:45AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > S> What benefits from switching to utf8 locale in 'default' login class? > > > > > > Being on the same page as rest of the world? > > > > What benfit from it? > > What is rest of world? > > Windows used UTF-16 > > Centos used en_US.UTF-8 > > Ubuntu used C > > Ubuntu is also xx_YY.UTF-8 depending on one's regional settings, but that > does not really matter. Ubuntu cron don't have setting for LANG. > > I don't see common locale for 'rest of the world'. > > It's not about having "common locale" with the rest of the world, it's the > other way around: UTF-8 is far superior to anything else, and that's why > the world (sane part thereof) switched to it, earlier or later. > > I was just as conservative as you Slawa, and was perfectly happy with KOI8, > but really, it should go now. It served us well, but in the multi-language > world it has no place, for better or for worse. > > The unfortunate fat that nvi(1) is truncating files merely means that we'd > have to fix nvi(1), not further delay finally going to bed with UTF-8. Having additional login class and improving support of utf-8 in application cover all cases and can be backported to old versions of FreeBSD.
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