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Date:      Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:23:54 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith)
Cc:        terry@lambert.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, jdp@polstra.com, nate@sneezy.sri.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: GAS question
Message-ID:  <199603182023.NAA22102@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <199603180032.LAA21469@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Mar 18, 96 11:02:38 am

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> > > For crying out loud, wasn't it you, Terry, that was complaining about 
> > > not having an environment where you could click on a compiler error
> > > and jump to the offending line of source?  Emacs has been doing that
> > > for as long as it's known what a mouse _is_.
> > 
> > Now I need to complain that it's emacs...
> 
> This legitimises me complaining that VC is a Windows tool, that it's a
> Microsoft product, and that your socks are mismatched.

The only valid corrolary in that list is "is a Windows tool".  I didn't
complain that it was GPL'ed ("an FSF product") and I didn't complain
about an unrelated issue ("mismatched socks").

Bitching about the user interface is a legitimate gripe, considering
*ALL* UNIX boxes come with vi and *NOT* all UNIX boxes come with Emacs.

Complaining about "coulda shoulda mighta" re: Emacs coming with UNIX
is moot: it doesn't.

> It's a tool.  It works.  It does what is required.  What more can you ask?
> Political correctness?  Sound samples on every keystroke?  Sheesh. 8)

How about "not having to learn a user interface"?  Windows and Motif
applications which are written in accordance with the style guides
have the common attribute that once you learn one, you've learned
them all (unless someone does something *stupid* and "enhances" the
interface away from the style guide to make the product "better").

> > I personally *really* like "BattleMap", an IDE (Interactive Developement
> > Environment).  It doesn't run on FreeBSD, unfortunately.
> 
> Why not?  What can we do to rectify this horrific situation? 8)

Port FreeBSD to SPARC, and make it run SunOS/Solaris binaries.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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