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Date:      Sun, 5 Aug 2001 02:18:42 -0300
From:      "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" <lioux@uol.com.br>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/audio/xsidplay Makefile distinfo
Message-ID:  <20010805021842.A15514@Fedaykin.here>
In-Reply-To: <20010804215856.D8558@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 09:58:37PM -0700
References:  <200108021948.f72Jmig93574@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010804215856.D8558@xor.obsecurity.org>

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On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 09:58:37PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 12:48:44PM -0700, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote:
> > lioux       2001/08/02 12:48:44 PDT
> > 
> >   Modified files:
> >     audio/xsidplay       Makefile distinfo 
> >   Log:
> >   o Update to 1.6.0
> >   o Bump PORTEPOCH since last version (1.6b12) is smaller then newer
> >     version (1.6.0)
> 
> I wish people wouldn't be so quick to bump PORTEPOCH.  PORTEPOCH
> increments last forever, there's no way they can be reverted.  It's
> much better in cases like this to make the new version number such
> that it's larger than the previous (for example, 1.6.0.12 in this
> case)

	I think you missed my reply to the commit log message
stating that the log read was, in fact, the other way around. The
port was updated from 1.6b12 to 1.6.0. Nonetheless, I understand
your concern and I will try to address it properly.
	I know that ppl shouldn't be trigger happy with PORTEPOCH
and, as such, I pointed that out for the maintainer which can be
seen in the PR log message.  Also, I consulted on #bsd**** for a
suggestion and none came. I myself totally dislike PORTEPOCH and
regret to say that I have one port under my maintainership using
it. Careful choice of PORTVERSION when expanding 1.6b12 (previous
version number) would have prevented this, e.g., 1.6.b2. However,
I was not comfortable on disfiguring PORTVERSION 1.6.0 to achieve
the desired effect, so I contacted a larger audience that did not
object to PORTEPOCH. Furthermore, this same audience did not produce
a good suggestion on a suitable PORTVERSION number, probably
unconfortable on disfuring it also.
	We should emphasize on Porters Handbook the importance of
carefull observation when picking PORTVERSION: observing
how the author selects his version numbers. Considering that
PORTVERSION should always be a increasing number. Said that, I
think I should write the aformentioned warning. Specially, teach
maintainers on how 'pkg_version -t' works.
	Nevertheless, I agree that warnings should be raised
everytime PORTEPOCH is used to avoid its senseless deployment.

-- 
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