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Date:      Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:33:32 -0400
From:      "Brian K. White" <brian@aljex.com>
To:        <freebsd-usb@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   wireless keyboard with built in touchpad
Message-ID:  <001401c57f66$d7d01fe0$941fa8c0@venti>

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I have a VGP-WKB1  Sony Vaio usb, 2.4gz rf wireless, keyboard with built-in 
touch pad and seperate wireless mouse.

Gizmodo article
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/peripherals/input/vaio-vgpwkb1-wireless-keyboard-with-touchpad-036744.php

Sony product page
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VGPWKB1&CategoryName=hid_pr_p_20_per_ecoupon_all&DCMP=CNET_DF&HQS=NBA_VGPWKB1

better pictures on this japanese page:
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20050319/etc_vgpwkb1.html


I've been searching for a good wireless keyboard/mouse to use with a ThinBSD 
based thin client to use on my plazma tv.
http://nj.aljex.com/Hubpc/Photo_062005_005.jpg

Next to real optical mice, I only like touch pads and under duress I 
wouldn't mind a trackball or thumb-trackball. eraser points or big rubber 
thumb-bads that work the same way are the worst.
And, if possible I want a keyboard that looks nice enough to keep out on an 
end table or coffee table in the living room.
So this one is damned near ideal.

Like all the others I tried, the keyboard part of this works fine on 
5.4-release (what thinbsd is built on)
and the mouse is unrecognized.
Ordinary usb mice work fine, including when indirectly connected via hubs. I 
have one slim wired usb keyoard which has a built in 2 port hub and a usb 
mouse works fine plugged into it.

Who can I bribe to get the mouse working ?
Can I buy one of these and give it to someone (as in it's yours forever) in 
return for updating the mouse detection in usbd or in the kernel? or even 
just figuring out whatever cheap hack would allow it to work like maybe just 
commenting uhid out of the kernel config like you have to do for apcupsd?

dmesg on 5.4-release shows this near the end:

ukbd0: Sony RF Receiver, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd1 at ukbd0
uhid0: Sony RF Receiver, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd1 at ukbd0

I'm also willing to do the usual testing and reporting myself according to 
someones direction of course but I really want this so I don't mind making 
it worth someones while.
It's a really sweet unit.

It comes with a seperate wireless optical wheel mouse that works off the 
same receiver as the keyboard but I could care less about that mouse. Even 
if I were using this on a desk instead of my lap I'd use _any_ mouse but 
that one. It's shape is absolutely horrible. It's both ugly to look at and 
awkward to use.

It would be the ultimate in cool to sit there on the couch and use the 
remote to flip over the the vga input and do typical surfing, googling 
facts, shopping, work (my work is 99% ssh sessions to unix boxes and plain 
text app development and the low res but large plasma screen handles that 
just fine), irc, etc..  no cords, no finicky carefully aimed IR,... and then 
when not using it it folds up into a very living-room friendly clean 
appearance which also has the nice side effect of making a dust-cover over 
the keys.
Best of all, no more dragging out the d___ laptop and it's power brick.

Oh, if the answer is something simple like "run moused -p /dev/uhid0 ..." 
and 5 people tell me it, I'm not buying 5 $150 keyboards. Sorry! :)

Alternatively, if someone knows of a different keyboard that does work I'd 
be interested in hearing about it.
ideally it needs:
wireless
rf
10' range minimum
built-in touch pad
prefferably usb but ps/2 is ok.

There are at least a couple I didn't try yet but they are $100, $190 and 
$290 and I am tired of buying expensive keyboards to find out they don't 
work.

This ps/2, IR, thumb-pressure-pad one works in 5.3 but not 5.4. There is a 
known glitch with ps/2 mice on some kvms on 5.4, and a known kernel config 
option to work around it, that might possibly help this thing too, but I 
don't like this keyboard anyways.
http://www.directron.com/ack581.html

Thanks
Brian K. White  --  brian@aljex.com  --  http://www.aljex.com/bkw/
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