Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:34:23 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@puchar.net> To: Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> Cc: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@puchar.net>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@freebsd.org>, Domagoj Smol??i?? <rank1seeker@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, "jrm@freebsd.org" <jrm@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Core Team Secretary <core-secretary@freebsd.org> Subject: github and other one-per-world corposervers Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.20.2001161532570.12181@puchar.net>
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> > I respect your choice not to use Github. I would like the same respect in return, but I don’t expect it. Give everything in your life to few selected corpos. Give all of your freedom and all your personality to them. For free! Most people already did this. Possibly they now feel lighter :) But can then be considered humans anymore? > > Let’s move on and stay on topic. Bruce Evans should be the focus, not a bikeshed on the virtues and demerits of github and backup methods. > > </end-of-rant> > > -Enji > > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Jan 16 14:47:28 2020 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5671EA56B for <freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org>; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47z6VR4Jphz46HZ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (v-critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 314231AF102; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 00GElIPJ080777 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:47:18 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 00GElHOn080776; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:47:17 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@puchar.net> cc: Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, "jrm@freebsd.org" <jrm@freebsd.org>, Domagoj Smol??i?? <rank1seeker@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Core Team Secretary <core-secretary@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: github and other one-per-world corposervers In-reply-to: <alpine.BSF.2.20.2001161532570.12181@puchar.net> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> References: <alpine.BSF.2.20.2001161532570.12181@puchar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <80774.1579186036.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:47:17 +0000 Message-ID: <80775.1579186037@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47z6VR4Jphz46HZ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of phk@critter.freebsd.dk designates 130.225.244.222 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=phk@critter.freebsd.dk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.05)[-0.052,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.968,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; IP_SCORE(0.04)[ip: (0.07), ipnet: 130.225.0.0/16(0.07), asn: 1835(0.09), country: EU(-0.01)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD <freebsd-hackers.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-hackers>, <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers>, <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:47:28 -0000 -------- In message <alpine.BSF.2.20.2001161532570.12181@puchar.net>, Wojciech Puch= ar writes: > Give everything in your life to few selected corpos. Give all of your = > freedom and all your personality to them. For free! Most people already = > did this. Possibly they now feel lighter :) > = > But can then be considered humans anymore? We used to have a principle here in the FreeBSD project: "We deliver tools, not policies". That applies to our mailing lists too. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .
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