Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 09:57:18 -0800 From: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> To: Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> Cc: Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org>, "clusteradm@freebsd.org" <clusteradm@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: list of valid ABI combinations Message-ID: <0AF73A03-2AC2-4A1D-986F-B1E01A6B29DB@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <43875796-b619-47c4-874f-39090416b2ff@app.fastmail.com> References: <BB2A3B4D-3AED-42BA-8FD2-B245176C6BB4@freebsd.org> <B1BA45B2-7463-458A-A059-4F0FC17D6119@yahoo.com> <C65DA713-09FF-4548-8292-D659B9DE5B58@freebsd.org> <41A815DF-8F94-4B00-AEDF-D5E7456A0914@yahoo.com> <43875796-b619-47c4-874f-39090416b2ff@app.fastmail.com>
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On Jan 15, 2024, at 08:58, Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, at 3:00 AM, Mark Millard wrote: >> On Jan 1, 2024, at 21:45, Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> wrote: >>=20 >>> On 2024-01-02 12:38:47 (+0800), Mark Millard wrote: >>>> [FYI: My internet access is limited to a cellphone for some number = of days.] >>=20 >> I'm back to having my normal internet access. >>=20 >>>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 19:26, Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> =EF=BB=BFOn 2023-12-07 23:03:33 (+0800), Mark Millard wrote: >>>>>> . . . >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> There might be issues at times with = https://pkg.freebsd.org/index.html not >>>>>> being in sync. As far as I can tell, that page is manually = maintained. >>>>>=20 >>>>> clusteradm updates that page to match what we're actually = distributing. If it doesn't reflect reality, that's a bug, and we'd = like to know please. :-) >>>>=20 >>>> Does that include the =E2=80=9Conly ??? Is updated=E2=80=9D sorts = of notes? >>>=20 >>> Yes. Please let clusteradm know if the notes don't appear to = reflect reality. >>>=20 >>> clusteradm maintains the pkgsync infrastructure, which includes the = index page on the mirrors. pkgmgr is responsible for scheduling the = builds. (And ports committers are responsible for making sure packages = are even buildable). >>>=20 >>>> For example, FreeBSD:13:armv6 Latest dates back to 2021-Jan-25 but = there is no note about quarterly only. Various FreeBSD:15:* do not have = notes about Latest only, despite having no quarterly at all. Some other = cases have notable but shorter differences in the Latest vs. Quarterly = time frames, suggesting only one is being updated but no fixed = difference is definitive for that status. >>>=20 >>> The pkgsync infrastructure doesn't really care how often packages = are updated. If memory serves, we first added a "quarterly only" note = when the thunderxX generation of aarch64 builders broke with distressing = regularity. The ampereX builders are much more reliable. >>>=20 >>> I think the current situation for armv6 is "updated irregularly". = PowerPC is in the same boat as aarch64 in the ThunderX era: when the = hardware works, packages are updated. >>>=20 >>> . . . >>> Philip >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Philip Paeps >>> Senior Reality Engineer >>> Alternative Enterprises >>=20 >> Using https://dev.freshports.org/ports-mgmt/pkg looking for >> versions involved that are prior to 1.20.* at this point >> (or being "-") but having also a 1.20.* involved (or both >> being "-"), hovering in order to see dates when available >> . . >>=20 >>=20 >> Not-reported / misreported on https://pkg.freebsd.org/ : >>=20 >> FreeBSD:13:armv6 latest 1.16.2 (2021-01-25) vs. quarterly 1.19.2 = (2023-09-05) >> So only quarterly is updated (and not regularly?). >>=20 >> FreeBSD:14:armv6 latest 1.19.0 (2023-01-15) vs. quarterly - >> So only latest is/was updated (and not regularly). >>=20 >> FreeBSD:14:powerpc64 latest - vs. quarterly - >> So neither latest nor quarterly is updated. >>=20 >> FreeBSD:15:aarch64 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly - >> So only latest is updated. >>=20 >> FreeBSD:15:amd64 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly - >> So only latest is updated. >>=20 >> FreeBSD:15:armv7 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly - >> So only latest is updated. >>=20 >> FreeBSD:15:powerpc latest - vs. quarterly - >> So neither latest nor quarterly is updated. >>=20 >> FreeBSD:15:powerpc64 latest - vs. quarterly - >> So neither latest nor quarterly is updated. >>=20 >> FreeBSD:15:powerpc64le latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly - >> So only latest is updated. >=20 >=20 > Mark: My reading of your email saying the above items are something = for clusteradm to consider? Yes. Philip P. had requested to let clusteradm know "if the notes don't appear to reflect reality". I did that once I got general internet access back. Since there are no detailed criteria for the categorizations, they may well consider a subset of what I reported as appropriate to deal with. That is part of why I listed versions (or "-") and dates (when available). > As opposed to FreshPorts needs to do something. I just used Freshports to find the time frames for ports-mgmt/pkg. I did not run into any oddities when I did so. It gives a good way to occasionally manually check on the status of the notes. So, more background information for you than anything. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com
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