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Date:      23 Dec 2004 14:00:05 +0100
From:      peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen)
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Message-ID:  <86y8fpxj8q.fsf@amidala.datadok.no>
In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com>
References:  <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com>

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jsha <johann@terrabionic.com> writes:

> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks
>    like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years
>    ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very
>    disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect.

If you are unhappy with the logo or any other part of the material
provided by the FreeBSD project, you are free to start making something
you consider to be better. If you make something which is indeed
superior in the views of the commiters and you make it available under
an acceptable license, you might see it accepted into the project
proper. However, before you start down that track, you should read up a
bit on the project's and the mascot's history. 

> 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD
>    website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its
>    purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign
>    could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being
>    ugly.

If you are unhappy with the web site or any other part of the material
provided by the FreeBSD project, you are free to start making something
you consider to be better. If you make something which is indeed
superior in the views of the commiters and you make it available under
an acceptable license, you might see it accepted into the project
proper.

> 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved
>    by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than
>    previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve.

If you are unhappy with the installer or any other part of the material
provided by the FreeBSD project, you are free to start making something
you consider to be better. If you make something which is indeed
superior in the views of the commiters and you make it available under
an acceptable license, you might see it accepted into the project
proper.

> 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead
>    available to all that support this project.
> 
> How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work
> on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we
> produce the most magnificent result?

Stickers and other material is available from various sources which may
or may not to some degree or other be related to the project. I think
similar suggestions in the past have met with responses indicating that
business cards and letterhead would be somewhat low priority items to
most developers. Then again, if you make something which is indeed
superior in the views of the commiters and you make it available under
an acceptable license, you might see it accepted into the project
proper. One thing you almost will certainly not get is any kind of
blanket pre-approval, regardless of assurances that whatever you end up
producing will be great.

That's the way open source works - if you make something good and make
it available to others, fine, it will be put to the test. Then you have
a starting point, something tangible to argue for. Until you get to that
point, where you can say "I made this, and I'd like to contribute it to
the project", not a lot is going to happen.

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
"First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales"



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