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Date:      Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:42:14 +0100
From:      Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.homeip.net>
To:        Kenneth Culver <culverk@alpha.yumyumyum.org>
Cc:        "Brian T.Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>, Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, "Steve B." <steveb99@earthlink.net>, "Eugene L. Vorokov" <vel@bugz.infotecs.ru>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: C vs C++
Message-ID:  <20020306094214.A96462@energyhq.homeip.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020305225203.T7488-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org>; from culverk@alpha.yumyumyum.org on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:53:00PM -0500
References:  <20020306030145.01E6ABA03@i8k.babbleon.org> <20020305225203.T7488-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org>

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On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:53:00PM -0500, Kenneth Culver wrote:

> I've never really used Objective C, although didn't Next use that in
> NextStep/OpenStep?

Indeed, there's an ongoing effort called GNUStep which tries to build a
compatible API, and Obj-C bindings for several toolkits, including GTK+. I'=
ve
only started playing with obj-c for a while, but it looks very good.
When I find a project that I want to program using the OOP paradigm, I'm
sure Obj-C will be my language of choice.

In Obj-C, all OO features are totally orthogonal to the C language, it's
very clear where you are using objects and where you are not, since the
syntax differs completely from normal C code. On the other hand, C++
seems to me like a patch on top of C. IMO it's a pity that Obj-C is not
used more widely, seems to be used only in OS X while the rest of the
world keeps coding in C++ and that abomination called Java. I never
understood what's so hot about Java, well yes, compile once, debug
anywhere, yeah right. Looks like an idiot proof C++ dialect to me, but
that's just my opinion, which is probably heavily biased, since when I
learned C I had been progamming in mc68k assembly for 5 years, so my
brain tends to build code structures in that way, which is compatible
with C, but not with java/c++.

Back in the C++ vs C subject, there's also this faked Stroustrup
interview that appeared some years ago. I've wondered many times if it
wasn't real after all. I mean, a lot of things said there make sense ;-)

Cheers,
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