Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2020 12:19:16 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet@zoho.com> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why I support BSD software Message-ID: <cf2baad5e1e2342eaac4175aef8a640c5582e82f.camel@zoho.com> In-Reply-To: <20200606120821.1736e765@utnubu> References: <CACjFxjDvBuDrLUPM=RhLA11fRzwY17Q7cJn0dS05Z6iQFpO8ig@mail.gmail.com> <20200605104036.6df59f84@utnubu> <CACjFxjDvO9t9cs=fbwexmPVXfvmeg5ghJCz%2B=peOhOBwEPdChg@mail.gmail.com> <20200606120821.1736e765@utnubu>
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Correction of a few typos I noticed:
On Sat, 2020-06-06 at 12:08 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-chat wrote:
> All operating systems and licenses have got pros and cons.
> If you want to compare operating systems and licenses you should list
> pros and cons of the mentioned operating systems, excluding untruth.
^ and licenses
> If you just want to mention pros of an operating system and
> licenses, don't add comparisons at all and list the pros and the cons,
> excluding untruth.
Probably without mentioning the cons. Not necessarily a good idea. Just
imagine somebody buying hardware that isn't supported.
> If you mention things that could be considered different
> regarding the point of view, such as 'spyware', underpin it by
> providing facts/links.
>
> Indeed some phone home options off FLOSS could be considered as
> spyware, but FreeBSD as well as Linux maintainers and users could
> decide to build with disabling phone home flags and don't need to use
> data collecting software at all. Some users even consider some phone
> home options as not being spyware, but a good tool for developers to
> improve FLOSS software.
>
> An example:
>
> [rocketmouse@archlinux extra-x86_64]$ grep python2\ waf\ configure
> PKGBUILD -A7
> python2 waf configure --prefix=/usr \
> --configdir=/etc \
> --with-backends="jack,alsa" \
> --libjack=weak \
> --optimize \
> --docs \
> --cxx11 \
> --no-phone-home
>
> Even while the ardour developers are unlikely spying, the phone home
^^^^^^^^^^ main developer
the community helps
> flag could collide with security measures, e.g. at a given time ardour
> provides useful data for development, not over a tor network and at the
> same time a browser is used for Internet research. Under some
^1^^^^^ tor browser
> circumstances this might be unfavourable.
>
> Ardour is the only professional DAW available for FreeBSD as well as
> Linux. It's GPL'ed without any side effect. It's free as in beer, but
> the developer makes living out of it.
^^^^^^^^^
main developer
> Controversial software such as (another example) Ubuntu's 'shopping
> lens' aren't Linux as a whole, it's some software provided by a Linux
> distro, that nobody is enforced to install in the first place.
Just start with a minimal install or server image.
> However, your blog is nothing else, but good for redirecting it to
> /dev/null.
>
> It's bogus. It neither satisfies a good description of the pros and cons
> of FreeBSD, neither of Linux.
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