Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:46:56 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.tfs.com> Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, kaleb@x.org Subject: Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP Message-ID: <TkmOaWmuKL@ache.dialup.demos.ru> In-Reply-To: <413.813840749@critter.tfs.com>; from Poul-Henning Kamp at Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:52:29 %2B0100 References: <413.813840749@critter.tfs.com>
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In message <413.813840749@critter.tfs.com> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: >> In message <214.813831228@critter.tfs.com> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: >> >> >> >Yes, bloat is added even when ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE isn't set. Bloat is >> >> >added even when no ctype function is called (this is normal for most >> >> >programs in /bin and /sbin - grep shows "ctype.h" in only 25 out of 80 >> >> >programs in /usr/src/[s]bin. >> >> >> >> It isn't accurate results. Many libc functions calls ctype >> >> indirecly, i.e. strtol, atoi, etc. You additionly need >> >> to grep ctype through libc and then grep function you got >> >> through bin/sbin. I suspect that 100% of programs use ctype >> >> for accurate results. >> >> >Andrey, you have to realize that Bruce reported precise numbers, whereas >> >you just "suspect". Please prove you point, and provide hard numbers. >> >> Well, here more accurate results. >> >> I build/install special crt0.o version which not calls reduced_setlocale() >> bloat. >> Then I rebuild bin/sbin. Then I use following csh script to find ones >> which not use ctype at all: >Did you rebuild static or dynamic ? I will only belive numbers from a >static rebuild... I rebuild as default, i.e. static. You can repeat it by yourself, just comment out two lines into crt0.c and use my script after rebuild. Why you even assume that I can rebuild them as dynamic? Dynamic variant don't cause such bloat, so nobody count it. BTW, I don't give any 'numbers' here, I only prove that all our static programs _use_ ctype, so they needs _right_ ctype, i.e. my hack. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849
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