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Date:      Mon, 29 May 2000 09:34:53 +1000
From:      "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>
To:        "leegold" <goldtech@worldpost.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: any good books?
Message-ID:  <008b01bfc8fd$541f9420$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER>
References:  <000501bfc8f2$e3ea30c0$cedda4d8@leegold1> <003f01bfc8f4$f5a59c30$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> <000a01bfc8f9$013844e0$cedda4d8@leegold1>

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> one thing, that caught me off guard was the lack of support for the newer
> video cards. i got a shiny new card - highly rated - that's not x86
> supported. typical newbie blunder. got me peaved.

I've got caught out there before .... my choice of desktop O/S is Solaris, &
try getting an AGP card it likes !!!. The choice is between the totally
crazy
pricing of Matrox (around $400 in Australia) & the extremely good & well
priced (but typically hard to find) ATI Rage Pro.
>
> i've taken a mess of programming, computer- college level courses, nothing
> i've seen is as tuff a nut to crack as unix sysadmin. And that's what's
> happening - FreeBSD and maybe to a lesser extent Linux, requires the USER
to
> become their own sysadmins. and that ain't easy my friend. think about it.
>
Actually the commercial unixes do come with "proper" docs. Both Solaris, &
even more so, SCO docs are among the best on the planet. I figure the
difference
is that when you charge thousands for an O/S, clients can demand
intelligible docs,
but with "free" operatings like FreeBSD & the linuxes, the developers are
basically
code crunchers to whom docs are simply a distraction. At least the FreeBSD
stuff is
partly intelligible, as compared with those unbelievably dreadful linux
HOWTO's.
The reason I use FreeBSD is that its cheap ... I do have scottish ancestry
:) .. ,
its reliable in a server mode, and once one figures stuff out its really
simple to
configure. The whole problem, as you have stated,  is that proper (meaning
in
step_by_step format) explanations of even the most basic functions are
somewhat
difficult to find.

I messed around with various linuxen for years without getting anywhere
fast. The
docs are typically written in some language not of planet earth (possibly
martian or
something even weirder),  the faithful exhibit a religious zeal like nothing
I've seen
before (I swear they all face California to chant their "Hail Linuses" /
"Our Linuses "
or whatever oddball rites they perform, & it doesn't take a lot of lurking
in their mailing
lists  / newsgroups to see that they believe Bill Gates is the Antichrist).
Worst of all,
the RedHat / Mandrake disasters I used proved to be so unstable they were
worse
than useless. Some of the regulars in these lists use slackware  & claim its
acceptably
stable, but whats the point ......why confuse oneself with a second poorly
documented
O/S ?? At least FreeBSD does a very good job as a back-end server.





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