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Date:      Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:48:40 -0600
From:      Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@americantv.com>
To:        Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Someone needs to re-develop "Softupdates"
Message-ID:  <19980308214840.62378@right.PCS>
In-Reply-To: <19980308191111.08309@mcs.net>; from Karl Denninger on Mar 03, 1998 at 07:11:11PM -0600
References:  <19980308191111.08309@mcs.net>

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On Mar 03, 1998 at 07:11:11PM -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
> I just read Julian's page.
> 
> What is in the Copyright file, and how Kirk "interprets" it, are two
> completely different things.

Uh.  I just read the copyrights, as well as the email on Julian's web
site.  Remember that what is binding is the copyright attached to the
code, not what some email message says.

That out of the way, it seems fairly clear (to me, at least) that the
only difference from a standard BSD license is point #4.  This only
states that any _redistributions_ must include both the source for 
softupdates, and the source for "the software that uses this software".
(read: the kernel itself).

So, if either 1) you don't redistribute the software, or 2) you include
your entire kernel sources, the clause doesn't affect you.

This would affect Sun/BSDI/Whistle (binary licensees only), but not
Karl, unless he's selling turnkey systems with custom kernel code 
that he doesn't want to provide source for.


> According to Kirk, if someone wants to use it in a "Production ISP System"
> (to cite one of his examples) they need to negotiate a license from him.

The copyright does not say that.  The copyright is what carries the
legal weight, not Kirk's email message, (which I think you are
misinterpreting, I believe he was referring to something like BSDI).

Can we move on now?
--
Jonathan

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