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Date:      Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:22:27 -0800
From:      Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r344129 - head
Message-ID:  <3415ED8D-6831-4EAA-97DB-7E45185E8B82@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfrDOptYibERM4JfOk77Tmn2cao5G5MRrSYZN4sfwHt-fQ@mail.gmail.com>
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> On Feb 14, 2019, at 19:08, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>=20
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 1:42 PM Rodney W. Grimes <freebsd@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmg=
r.net wrote:
>> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:00:22PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
>> > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:29 AM Rodney W. Grimes <
>> > > > >   Differential Review: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D19193
>> > > >
>> > > > You sited a differential, but not give any attribution
>> > > > to the external source :-(
>> > > >
>> > >=20
>> > > The differential review has that information.
>> >=20
>> > External contributors should be recognized by having their names appear=

>> > in the commit logs.
>>=20
>> We even bother to put a special line in the commit template
>> for this.  Further it has been standard operating procedure
>> for at least as long as I have been back that submitters
>> are infact recognized in commit messages.
>>=20
>> You have, again, summarily dismissed valid feedback.
>=20
>=20
> The problem is that was a trivial commit. And you offered not one, but two=
 complaints about adding an 'e' to the updating file. That's what pissed me o=
ff. It's advice that might be correct, but was so far over the top, in publi=
c, for such a trivial commit. That's why I got mad: it added no value and se=
emed nit picky and pretty. So I lost it. I shouldn't have, but I did.=20
>=20
> I'm sorry for my cool.

Thank you both Rod and Warner for the reply.

Thank you Rod for noting that src-committers was a public list; I thought it=
 was private to FreeBSD src committers.

I replied to this thread because while I agree with what you said, I felt th=
at the reaction and forum were not in proportion to what happened :/.

More than a handful of threads lately have become heated to a point that con=
cerns me about inter-developer relations and perception outside of the commu=
nity. I have taken part in some of the discussions, potentially contributing=
 to the overall issue.

I=E2=80=99m happy with the eventual outcome, but I hope that we, as a group,=
 can do better next time to avoid these situations and be kinder to one anot=
her. Many of the recent issues (while important in aggregate) seem minor (in=
 disaggregate).

All the best,
-Enji=



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