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Date:      Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:43:33 +0200
From:      Arto Pekkanen <isoa@kapsi.fi>
To:        freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: pkg : Undefined symbol "openat"
Message-ID:  <45da59f2-8247-3f80-e7af-28cd5e270818@kapsi.fi>
In-Reply-To: <15984c268f4-1d28-48068@webprd-a68.mail.aol.com>
References:  <15984c268f4-1d28-48068@webprd-a68.mail.aol.com>

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From: Arto Pekkanen <isoa@kapsi.fi>
To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <45da59f2-8247-3f80-e7af-28cd5e270818@kapsi.fi>
Subject: Re: pkg : Undefined symbol "openat"
References: <15984c268f4-1d28-48068@webprd-a68.mail.aol.com>
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I firstly recommend using the quarterly repository that is configured by
default. The quarterly repository is more stable.

If you have a supported release version of FreeBSD installed, you should
not fear pkg. I am running a supported release of FreeBSD on multiple
devices, one being a full fledged desktop, and I've never had serious
issues thus far. The worst problems I've ever had (running multiple
systems on supported releases) have been fixed with:
pkg update -f && pkg upgrade -f pkg && pkg upgrade

The above command does not upgrade anything before you give it a go. It
forcibly updates database, forcibly upgrades pkg itself and then shows
you first what would be done during an upgrade. If it would do something
that you don't want, ie. it would remove needed packages for some
reason, then just cancel the operation (by pressing n for No), wait for
a few days and try again. Most of these issues are ephemeral.

I have a complex setup, installing packages mixing from remote and local
custom repository (for custom compiled versions of some packages). And
even then pkg knows what to do most of the time.

And like always, if you run into issues you cannot figure out yourself,
reporting them here gets them resolved most of the time.

On 9.1.2017 21:44, Erdos New via freebsd-pkg wrote:
> I'm still exploring freebsd,  and i still haven't got a good grasp on '=
pkg' ecosystem.  on several instances, 'pkg' rendered entire system unusa=
ble after installing a package.  firefox, xfce DE, and 'x' windows all ha=
ve been broken before by  'pkg update/upgrade'.    coming from Debian, i =
thought 'pkg' is equivalent to 'apt', but now i know better:  'pkg' is no=
t 'apt', it does more to break system than anything else.  it does depend=
ency check only on limited scale, and it does not install all needed depe=
ndencies.=20
> =20
>=20
>  so why i haven't upgraded?  because i don't want to spend several hour=
s to fix a system breaking by 'pkg' again.  i've freebsd11 running on two=
 other computers and i dread to install any package with 'pkg', worrying =
my system will break by it.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>  -erdos
>=20
> =20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Davis <brd@FreeBSD.org>
> To: Erdos New <shaojwen@aim.com>
> Cc: freebsd-pkg <freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 6, 2017 2:23 pm
> Subject: Re: pkg :   Undefined symbol "openat"
>=20
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 01:14:54PM -0500, Erdos New via freebsd-pkg wro=
te:
>> for now i'd like to stay with 10.1 instead of upgrading to 10.3. =20
>=20
> Why would you stay with something that is not supported?
>=20
>=20
> Regards,
> Brad Davis
>=20
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Arto Pekkanen


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