Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 00:27:07 +0300 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: Shamim Shahriar <shamim.shahriar@gmail.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building a FreeBSD NAS Message-ID: <CAOgwaMvoiwQQZBsDb9E=G3AHHi6oTaQ-XU1mQrHXpejRKTH4-g@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAOyJeZSqFEB7hQnQy99Hn3v=FP7MY6FzzWRLRqynb5o5cCMHjA@mail.gmail.com> References: <188a6994-9428-6d65-6ac0-e8d92997a389@gmx.at> <2F6C212A-B857-4DA3-8EDE-92787941BB57@kukulies.org> <CAOgwaMuAHyoW8%2BFxs61cd7-sQ9VaMR4HfwKYqU-TJr_vXTZZKw@mail.gmail.com> <CAOyJeZRdUmLMEbx8ZrbFvkOpUQ6T7kxXbofTB87=en9R7FL81g@mail.gmail.com> <CAOgwaMt4bK%2B%2B=vDsbCBEnfUMwAqeKZODphR%2B2ySkXJT2EaSWCA@mail.gmail.com> <CAOyJeZSqFEB7hQnQy99Hn3v=FP7MY6FzzWRLRqynb5o5cCMHjA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 8:37 PM Shamim Shahriar <shamim.shahriar@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Mehmet and group
>
> I'm not sure Truenas would require a separate computer, the existing
> computer should be okay (assuming it is okay for adding all the services
> manually). At best it may suggest a smaller boot device in addition.
> Depending on the requirement for stability and redundancy there can be ma=
ny
> other additions -- but for a pure and simple network attached storage,
> running FreeBSD 12.x and supporting many different sharing possibility
> (samba, NFS, WebDAV, iSCSI) all ready to function as desired without the
> need to get into all the nitty-gritty of things -- I honestly would like =
to
> understand why no one mentioned Truenas.
>
> Disclaimer: I do not work for Truenas nor have any pecuniary interest not
> am I advocating for it. I'm just saying I'm a happy user and and think th=
is
> may be a possible solution.
>
> Best regards.
> SS
>
>
Another issue about supplying an answer to a question is to know
sufficiently well
the possibilities . When people do not know TrueNAS in such detail , it is
natural
to omit it because she/he is not able to say anything useful about it .
Another point is also everyone is trying to supply an answer which who
knows it very well .
When these answers are considered as a whole , the question is more
explicitly and
correctly answered , and it is possible to select best one of the
alternatives by knowing
them in sufficient correctness .
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022, 14:46 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk, <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 5:22 PM Shamim Shahriar <shamim.shahriar@gmail.co=
m>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone, just out of curiosity, why Truenas has not been
>>> considered a possible solution? After all, it does everything that has =
been
>>> discussed so far and seem to fit the bill quite well!
>>>
>>> Just curious!
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> SS
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With respect to me :
>>
>> He has an existent computer and he wants to use it .
>> To suggest a different computer or install a different ( let's say )
>> version seems
>> to be not useful for him .
>>
>>
>> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022, 12:58 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk, <
>>> m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 3:39 PM Christoph Kukulies <kuku@kukulies.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Main aim is to access it from macOS as NAS backup server.
>>>>>
>>>>> MacOS should be able to recognize it as a backup medium.
>>>>>
>>>>> =E2=80=94
>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You may do this as follows explained on pages from search in Google :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> from macos to freebsd nfs server
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 05.02.2022 um 11:02 schrieb infoomatic <infoomatic@gmx.at>:
>>>>>
>>>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>>>> On 05.02.22 10:13, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I=E2=80=99m thinking of setting up a NAS server on my FreeBSD (12.1) =
system. What would be the product from ports or server I had to use?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> depends on how you gonna use it. First, I suggest updating to 12.3
>>>>> since 12.1 is end of life, or upgrade to 13.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use plain sshfs, so I do not need anything from ports ;-) I just us=
e
>>>>> sshd from the base system and fusefs-sshfs on my clients.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you intend to use nfs, it is also in base - with 13.0 you can also
>>>>> use TLS to encrypt data in transmission.
>>>>>
>>>>> iscsi is also in base. However, if you want to share files with
>>>>> Windows clients, you can use samba413 from ports/pkg.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to share files via webdav, use apache24 from ports/pkg,
>>>>> for ftp I can recommend vsftpd from ports/pkg (or proftpd).
>>>>>
>>>>> For afp/filesharing with macos you can use netatalk3 from ports/pkg.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 =
at 8:37 PM Shamim Shahriar <<a href=3D"mailto:shamim.shahriar@gmail.com"=
>shamim.shahriar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Mehmet and group<div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I'm not sure Truenas would require a =
separate computer, the existing computer should be okay (assuming it is oka=
y for adding all the services manually). At best it may suggest a smaller b=
oot device in addition. Depending on the requirement for stability and redu=
ndancy there can be many other additions -- but for a pure and simple netwo=
rk attached storage, running FreeBSD 12.x and supporting many different sha=
ring possibility (samba, NFS, WebDAV, iSCSI) all ready to function as desir=
ed without the need to get into all the nitty-gritty of things -- I honestl=
y would like to understand why no one mentioned Truenas.=C2=A0</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Disclaimer: I do not work for Truena=
s nor have any pecuniary interest not am I advocating for it. I'm just =
saying I'm a happy user and and think this may be a possible solution.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best regards.</div><div =
dir=3D"auto">SS</div></div><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"g=
mail_default">Another issue about supplying an answer to a question is to k=
now sufficiently well</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font=
-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">the possibilities . When people do not=
know TrueNAS in such detail , it is natural <br></div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">to omit it=
because she/he is not able to say anything useful about it .</div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default=
"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default">Another point is also everyone is trying to supply an=
answer which who knows it very well .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahom=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">When these answers ar=
e considered as a whole , the question is more explicitly and</div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default=
">correctly answered , and it is possible to select best one of the alterna=
tives by knowing <br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font=
-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">them in sufficient=C2=A0 correctness .=
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" clas=
s=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-s=
erif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-=
family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Mehmet Er=
ol Sanliturk</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans=
-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"></div><br></div><div><br></=
div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Feb =
2022, 14:46 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk, <<a href=3D"mailto:m.e.sanliturk@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 5:22 PM Shamim Shahriar <<a href=3D"mailto:s=
hamim.shahriar@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">shamim.shahr=
iar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hello everyone, just out of curiosity, why T=
ruenas has not been considered a possible solution? After all, it does ever=
ything that has been discussed so far and seem to fit the bill quite well!<=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Just curious!</div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Kind regards</div><div dir=3D"auto">SS</=
div></div><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e">With respect to me :</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:large">He has an existent computer and he wants to use it .</div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">To suggest a differe=
nt computer or install a different ( let's say ) version seems <br></di=
v><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">to be not us=
eful for him .<br></div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Mehmet Erol Sanliturk</div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"></div><br></div><div><=
br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Sat, 5 Feb 2022, 12:58 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk, <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">m.e.sanlitu=
rk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:tah=
oma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 3:39 PM Ch=
ristoph Kukulies <<a href=3D"mailto:kuku@kukulies.org" rel=3D"noreferrer=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">kuku@kukulies.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Main aim is to access it from macOS as NAS =
backup server.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">MacOS shoul=
d be able to recognize it as a backup medium.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=94</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Christoph=C2=A0</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">You may do=
this as follows explained on pages from search in Google :</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"=
font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font=
-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">from macos to freebsd nfs server=
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"></di=
v><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif=
;font-size:large">Mehmet Erol Sanliturk</div><div style=3D"font-family:taho=
ma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-=
serif;font-size:large"></div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><=
br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Am 05.02.2022=
um 11:02 schrieb infoomatic <<a href=3D"mailto:infoomatic@gmx.at" rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">infoomatic@gmx.at</a>>:<br>=
<br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
=20
=20
=20
=20
<div>On 05.02.22 10:13, Christoph Kukulies
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<pre>I=E2=80=99m thinking of setting up a NAS server on my FreeBSD (1=
2.1) system. What would be the product from ports or server I had to use?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<p>depends on how you gonna use it. First, I suggest updating to
12.3 since 12.1 is end of life, or upgrade to 13.0.</p>
<p>I use plain sshfs, so I do not need anything from ports ;-) I
just use sshd from the base system and fusefs-sshfs on my clients.
<br>
</p>
<p>If you intend to use nfs, it is also in base - with 13.0 you can
also use TLS to encrypt data in transmission. <br>
</p>
<p>iscsi is also in base. However, if you want to share files with
Windows clients, you can use samba413 from ports/pkg.</p>
<p>If you want to share files via webdav, use apache24 from
ports/pkg, for ftp I can recommend vsftpd from ports/pkg (or
proftpd).</p>
<p>For afp/filesharing with macos you can use <span>netatalk3 from port=
s/pkg.<br>
</span></p>
<p><span><br>
</span></p>
<p><span>Regards,</span></p>
<p><span>Robert<br>
</span></p>
=20
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