Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:18:55 -0500 From: Chris Costello <chris@holly.dyndns.org> To: "Michael C. Vergallen" <mvergall@mail.double-barrel.be> Cc: chris@calldei.com, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>, Oscar Bonilla <obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu>, "Pedro F. Giffuni" <pfgiffun@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dos2unix Message-ID: <19990503221854.F10291@holly.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9905040455030.5582-100000@ws3.double-barrel.be>; from Michael C. Vergallen on Tue, May 04, 1999 at 05:12:59AM %2B0200 References: <19990503215342.D10291@holly.dyndns.org> <Pine.LNX.4.04.9905040455030.5582-100000@ws3.double-barrel.be>
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On Mon, May 3, 1999, Michael C. Vergallen wrote: > Yes nesessary ... Look in the ideal world (where everyone could live of a > grant or trust fund) his ideas would have been taken up a long time ago... > You look at this this way ... if everyone had the money he or she needed > and could afford to do what they wanted then his model would be > ideal..e.i. everyone working for the greater good and all that ... now > that is RMS's situation ... he can basically write his own ticket and has > not to worry like most poeple about the where the next meal or rent check > is going to come from... Thus because of that he can afford to tell poeple > to give the code for free and tell poeple that a copywright licence is > shit and why not just give the code away... I do understand that most > poeple are not in that situation so they have to sell them selves into > something I call slavery most poeple call it a job. That is okey if you > have to but I don't ... You see what I mean... if everyone had the same > amount of money to do what they really wanted they could be generous and > work for free and give their work away... You are looking at the GPL from > the way of someone who has to sell it's labour to make a living but in the > world RMS lives in he does not have to and so he can be generous... Like > if really that Redmont company wanted to they could do the same and the > board of directors would not feel a thing...because they made enough money > allready to live of for the next 100 years in the same style they live now The GPL forces you to keep your code open no matter how you look at it. Forcing people to do what he likes through some neato-looking license isn't good. It's bad. Microsoft has nothing to do with this. > > Michael > --- > Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, > Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ > B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ > Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 > > On Mon, 3 May 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > > > On Mon, May 3, 1999, Michael C. Vergallen wrote: > > > Yep well ... I think personally RMS's ideas are extreem but neccessary in > > > > Necessary? He wants to force people to use open code. He > > also pushes that horrible license (which forces people to use > > open code. Hmm.). > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with Brett's song. > > > > > the software world today... Becuase if poeple like RMS and others where > > > not around the software bussiness would be the Mafia with protection > > > rackets and all. Hell I find some of his ideas still to moderate... > > > but I'm a exteemist and a true anarchist who has his own money so I can > > > afford to be extreem ...it is easy to be extreem when you have the money > > > to bail you out when you get into trouble like I allready have been on > > > three counts of copyright infringements because I did not bother asking > > > someone to publish a certain report on the net ... but my lawyer took care > > > of this and I continue to distribute that document in the public interest > > > and simply when they ask me to pay a fine well I let them ask for a while > > > and eventually pay when it suits me. > > > > > > Michael > > > --- > > > Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, > > > Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ > > > B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ > > > Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 > > > > > > On Mon, 3 May 1999, Brett Glass wrote: > > > > > > > At 06:59 PM 5/3/99 -0500, Chris Costello wrote: > > > > > > > > > The truly sad thing is when people GPL their code knowing > > > > > exactly what they're doing. Ever hear RMS sing? > > > > > > > > It was truly an eardrum-shattering experience. > > > > > > > > After hearing him exude his "free software" song, I spent > > > > the rest of the day with a rejoinder running through my head. > > > > It went to the tune of "Casey Jones:" > > > > > > > > Verse: > > > > > > > > Once upon a time there was an engineer > > > > Richard Stallman was his name, we hear > > > > He had a problem with anyone > > > > Who made money off of software that makes computers run. > > > > > > > > Chorus: > > > > > > > > Stallman says: "You gotta share the software" > > > > Stallman says: "So give it all to me!" > > > > Stallman says: "You won't make a living > > > > 'Cause whatever you sell I'll give away for free." > > > > > > > > (There's more, but that's the basic idea.) > > > > > > > > --Brett Glass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> > > This is line 135 of .tags. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > -- Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> In God we trust; all else we walk through. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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