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Date:      14 Sep 2002 10:33:14 +1000
From:      Crispin Bennett <crispin@crisweb.webcentral.com.au>
To:        Kirk Strauser <kirk@strauser.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why are messages to this list appearing in *.freebsd.questions ng's?
Message-ID:  <1031963599.262.19.camel@jupiter>
In-Reply-To: <87ptvixd94.fsf@pooh.int>
References:  <1031910439.510.5.camel@jupiter>  <87ptvixd94.fsf@pooh.int>

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On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 22:52, Kirk Strauser wrote:

> 
> OK, I understand your point, but this seems like a bit of overreaction.
> First, *everyone* gets spam.  It's just part of life.

You only need one counter-example to disprove a generalisation. I'm it,
therefore "everyone" does *not* get spam. I used to, until I started
being extremely careful where I used my 'real' address and who I gave it
to. I use many email lists, and have never had my address leak out in
this way before, so didn't consider it a danger. I also consider it just
a matter of politeness not to use anonymous aliases when asking people
for help (which, given my neophyte level of knowledge of FreeBSD is all
I'm likely to be doing here in the near future). I guess now I'm left
without a choice.


> Second, there *are* other options.  I've
> installed SpamAssassin on my mailserver, and now literally do not get more
> than 1 or 2 pieces *per week* (I'd been receiving 30-40 *per day* before
> that).

It's something of an elitist assumption to make that everyone runs a
mailserver. I don't. The great majority of Internet users don't.

It's also irrelevant to the spam problem, as far as I'm concerned. If
I'm filtering spam, it's already reached me over the wire. At that
point, the bandwidth-theft has already occurred. There are two, and only
two, solutions to this: not letting thieves have my email address in the
first place, and damaging them (using law where the jurisdiction allows,
elsewhere hacking and baseball bats) if they do abuse it.

> 
> Besides, no matter what new address you get, it's in vain once a friend or
> family member responds to a chain letter and Cc:'s it to you, thereby
> spreading your address to everyone and their ferret.
> 
> Face it, Crispin, you can't hide.

I have up to now. I will again.

> Make this a learning experience and
> install SpamAssassin.

I will not waste my time administering a mail server for the two people
who use email on my home network. There are professionals out there who
do it better than I would.

Instead I'll make it a learning experience and use only temporary
aliases for mailing lists, which is a shame.



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