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Date:      10 Jan 2002 10:32:01 -0600
From:      James McNaughton <jtm63@enteract.com>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        jacks@sage-american.com, Joe & Fhe Barbish <barbish@a1poweruser.com>, FBSD Questions <questions@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Editors in base FBSD
Message-ID:  <867kqqmake.fsf@jamestown.21stcentury.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020107102311.G45844@wantadilla.lemis.com>
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Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> writes:

> 
> I can't possibly think of a worse solution.  I've never seen a
> Microsoft-based telnet client that wasn't broken, the telnet protocol
> is insecure, and I've never seen a really good editor which runs under
> Microsoft.

What about:
GNU Emacs 20.7.1 (i386-*-nt4.0.1381) of Tue Jun 13 2000 on buffy
Hmmm? ;)

And PuTTY works pretty well as far as I'm concerned for telnet and ssh
from M$ machines. 

> And now the obligatory Emacs plug.  Yes, you *can* use the mouse with
> Emacs.  Yes, you *can* cut, copy and paste (much more easily than with
> Microsoft).  From time to time I have visitors here who have never
> used UNIX of any flavour, but who want to read (and reply to) their
> mail.  I've given them Emacs to play with (under X, of course), no
> instruction, and they were able to cope.  On the other hand, Emacs is
> much more powerful than anything I've ever seen under Microsoft
> (including the Microsoft port of Emacs, available in the Cygwin
> package).

For editing and dired stuff I use the native NT port of emacs. Of
course it can't do many things which require a Unix environment but I
think it's still a powerful editor. I set it up to use the Cygwin
utilities as much as possible, however I had to reinstall Cygwin
recently and can't get RCS to build. I did it before...oh well.

However, IIRC, the original question was about base systems editors
and emacs -- as much as we love it -- is not in the base
distribution.

One could find the information by doing a keyword search of the man
pages e.g. "man -k editor" or "apropos editor"


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